• HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca
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    4 days ago

    I don’t understand why so many countries are reluctant. Fear of escalation is dumb, as a bully will only keep escalating every time their power is proven effective.

    Not wanting to deal with the public backlash over military deaths? WHAT THE FUCK IS A MILITARY FOR??? If we all thought like this back in the 1940s, we’d all be speaking German and eating nothing but cabbage and sausages.

    No one WANTS to send people to possible death. But that’s why the military hires you, educates you and pays you the way they do. You don’t get s military salary just for playing soldier on training grounds. The express agreement is “we will give you all this, but you might have to fight one day”.

    What the hell happened to us?

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      2 days ago

      i suspect putin is funding most of these other countries politicians, they dont want to lose that money spigot, plus the propaganda that comes with it.

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        4 days ago

        Fair…faacism waited just long enough for everyone who remembers to die, and it’s going for a speedrun this time.

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        The premise of MAD has kept us alive so far, no reason to think it won’t continue to apply. Russia is counting on it.

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          Agreed, but that is what increased our reluctance for “total war” in my opinion, it’s not that our people have lost our spine. Nukes allow the weaker opponent to counter punch much higher than their weight class, this has even worked for North Korea.

          So far.

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      3 days ago

      so your problem w/ victorious Germans would have been cabbage and sausages?? (btw, it’s a completely different situation than w/ Nazi ruled Germany.)

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        Firstly, this reads as you saying “Nazis were okay until 1940 or so, but then they began doing really evil things”

        Secondly, this reads as you defending the Russia.

        Supporting Nazis or supporting the Russia have no place in this community.
        Could you elaborate on these words of yours?

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            “We’d all be speaking <language> and ____ing nothing but _____” means “we would have been forced to follow the culture of this foreign nation and lose our own.”

            The act of forcing people to give up their language and culture for another one has an English word for it: Genocide.

            HumanOnEarth was saying that if we had behaved throughout the 1940’s the way we do now, we would have ended up victims of genocide. Nothing in his comment says that there is anything wrong with cabbages or sausages. They are not a problem to him at all. But losing his own cuisine and his own language would be problems for him.

            I am surprised if you truly do not understand this and wrote your comment in a good faith.

            HumanOnEarth was speaking up against fascism and what you did was to ridicule him. I hope you did so by accident.

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                They were tortured and slaughtered in order to remove their culture and language from the face of Earth.

                Killing people is difficult. It was not done for fun. It was done in order to achieve a goal.

                No, saying that that goal was monstrous is not “moaning”. And it is extremely disrespectful of you towards the victims of genocides to reduce it to that.