Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has reaffimed his firm refusal to cede any territory, resisting U.S. pressure for a painful compromise with Russia as he continued to rally European support for Ukraine.

“Undoubtedly, Russia insists for us to give up territories. We, clearly, don’t want to give up anything. That’s what we are fighting for,” Zelenskyy said in a WhatsApp chat late Monday in which he answered reporters’ questions.

“Do we consider ceding any territories? According to the law we don’t have such right. According to Ukraine’s law, our constitution, international law, and to be frank, we don’t have a moral right either.”

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    14 hours ago

    if they decide that they are ready to give up the fight, then that’s none of my business

    But if they Ukrainian people want to continue to fight, […] I’m all for supporting them

    Thats some precise and deliberate language you’re using. Yet you’ve still avoided answering the simple question.

    Sending tens of thousands of Ukrainians into the grinder?

    "Hell yeah! Slava Ukraini! To the last man!

    Ukrainians use their agency to negotiate an end to the war

    “Meh, not my business”

    It’s pretty clear that when this war most likely ends via negotiation and a land concession, all the gung ho support we see in threads like this one is going to evaporate.

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      lmao, bro, I can’t force them to fight. I’m just a guy on the other end of the computer. I think you don’t understand what the word “support” means.

      I support Ukraine’s right to independence and freedom.

      I support the cessation of hostilities in the region.

      I do not support surrender to Russia. Why would I? Choosing to fight and choosing not to fight are two diametrically opposed concepts. Therefore, I do not support a resolution in which Ukraine gives up land to Russia, period.

      It’s pretty clear that when this war most likely ends via negotiation and a land concession,

      Don’t hold your breath on this one, Chief.

      all the gung ho support we see in threads like this one is going to evaporate.

      Wow, what a stunning prediction. Next are you going to predict that the sun will come back up again after it goes down?

      Regardless of how the war ends, the support generally ends with it. That’s how thing things tend to work. it’s pretty hard to care about a think when the thing is no longer happening. If Ukraine achieved victory through martial victory alone and ended the war purely on their terms, my support would also evaporate because the war would be over.

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        13 hours ago

        I do not support a resolution in which Ukraine gives up land to Russia, period.

        Well thank you for finally giving up on the evasiveness. Ukrainian agency means nothing to you.

        To stand with Ukraine means to affirm the average Ukrainian’s agency. To affirm their agency to dictate the terms of the end of the war - even if it means they wish to surrender. You will not affirm Ukrainians if they decide to surrender, so you dont stand with Ukraine. You stand with Zelensky, at best. You stand with Ukraine *so long as they promise to sacrifice the last able-bodied soldier, at worst.

        So let’s just all be clear and understand that you dont stand with Ukraine. You tentatively condone them, so long as…

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          Please move to Russia… I’ll buy the plane ticket. Bring some sunflower seeds when you leave, you’ll need them