• Taldan@lemmy.world
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    This kind of thing is why she loat an election to Donald Trump of all people. She had the easiest race in history, but failed because she is a deeply unlikable shill

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    Honestly if the Clinton’s (Hillary specifically) could just shut the fuck up forever we would all be better off.

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      A-fucking-men to that.

      These fucking over-privileged cunts have already screwed us so badly it’ll take decades to recover if we even can at this point. They both need to shut up and get the fuck out.

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    I’m not so much pro-Palestine as anti-Israel if that makes sense. I realize the conflict is complex and they’ve all been horrible to each other for as long as anyone can remember, but Israel’s bullshit has gone too far. It’s inevitable to side with the Palestinians who have to live in terror every single day.

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      Calling it complex only serves Israeli agenda.

      The issue is simple - No amount of complexity justifies a genocide.

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        I agree with you, but I think you’re taking one idea to leverage another to arrive at a conclusion that I’m not promoting. The other commenters seem to have interpreted well what I’m trying to say.

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        Saying the history isn’t complex is just stupid though. You can identify that the history is complex without taking away from the fact that there’s a genocide going on.

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          I can concede that the conflict can present “complex” at first glance due to some Palestinians taking arms and themselves doing some heinous acts.

          But this is all downstream of an illegal occupation by Israel. This conflict really isn’t that complex. End the illegal occupation, then you can reasonably expect violent resistance to die down and to talk your way through it.

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        No, you can acknowledge that complexity of the conflict and history without condoning Israel’s actions.

        Discouraging people from appreciating nuance and encouraging them to think about a complex problem simplistically (as you are doing) is what tends to serve an agenda.

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      Nah those buildings just uh all fell down by themselves . Total coincidence.

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      They’re going to have to fix that for US users, like the Bay of America

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        Excuse me, it’s the Gulf of America! And don’t you forget it!

        salutes the flag, dramatic music plays, fireworks go off, and everyone claps as a single tear falls from my patriotic eye

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    One of the reasons she was a crap candidate was that she kept resorting to that same patronizing tone.

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    She found a few specks of credibility left at the bottom and decided to immediately sell them to AIPAC.

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    Oh really, Hillary? So why did a good portion of the rest of the world say on record that Israel is committing genocide? They all watching the fake videos too?

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      she was always the “lesser of the evils” candidate. For once the dems need to actually give us a good non-corporate fueled, actually, socially aware and empathetic, candidate. Otherwise the party is done and its probably for the best.

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      It was a bad decision to even put her up as a candidate. She had been demonized by the right for years prior to the election. They literally polarized the entire right to vote against her.

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        That’s completely irrelevant, they demonize every Dem. It was a bad decision to put her up as a candidate because she’s a giant asshole and not a talented enough liar to cover it up.

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          Exactly. Trump didn’t win by courting centrists. He energized entirely new voters (albeit with racism).

          Democrats insist that perpetually leaning further into corporatism and imperialism and abandoning marginalized groups like trans people and immigrants will win the “likely voters”.

          A real winning strategy would be to have policies that actually inspire people and turn out new voters.

          That would assume they actually want what they say they want though, instead of being controlled opposition.

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            Really it’s corporate Democrats trying to court corporate donors. It has close to nothing to do with this being the policy to win over voters. Imo, it’s why the corporate Dems need to be primaried out by progressives.

            A corporate Dem is still a marginally better than having Republicans in office, only because they’re focused on personal greed rather than personally causing the pain.

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        They demonize zorhan as well, the problem is Clinton (like 95% of the republicans) simply believes whatever her donors tell her.

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    Can she just fade into complete obscurity already? Would’ve thought that would be what she’d want to do given her husband is gunna be a big name in the Epstein files, and possibly also her too