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  • We may be talking past each other, but in any case, I don’t think that is a useful way of presenting this information.

    Gross domestic product calculates only for the net effect of imports and exports. That is to say, the balance of trade.

    56% of Canada’s GDP is consumer spending. 19% is investment. 23% is government spending. And 2% is net exports.

    That’s the $2.2/2.3 trillion GDP of Canada broken down. Yes, it’s technically true to say that the trade relationship represents a value roughly equivalent to 40% of Canada’s GDP, but I don’t believe that’s very helpful framing.

    Using the same method, we might say that the various trade relationships of the US represent a value that is roughly 25% of US GDP.

    If Canada’s GDP, an acronym that many people take to be synonymous with ‘economy’, was 40% US trade, we’d be talking about more than a 3% recession.

    I can’t help but think of the ‘length of a football field’ or ‘weight of an elephant’ mode of analysis.

    Also, your definition of the fallout this could create seems very limited in scope, but I take your point that you are only defining said fallout within the confines of the immediate and specific effects of the tarrifs themselves, and not all the various ripple effects.

    Otherwise, we probably agree more than we disagree. Trump’s a cunt is about what it boils down to for me.




  • While true, the Canadian government has already announced grants and loans to help Canadian companies restructure their supply chains away from the US. It’s a start. While the legal framework exists, Canadian companies haven’t yet had a reason to take advantage of new free trade agreements with the EU and the Asia Pacific. Now they do.

    Also, in terms of numbers: about 25% of Canadian GDP is based on US trade; a little lower than the number you quoted, still too high, I’d say. Hopefully, the Canadian economies’ smaller size will prove agile enough for the transition. I’ve also seen it suggested that the hit to the Canadian economy from Trump’s attacks could be offset by removing internal trade barriers so that Canada can trade more efficiently with itself. This has been a huge shot in the arm for that project.

    20% of US exports go to the EU, 18% go to Canada, 17% to Mexico, and less than 10% to China. Similarly, about 70% of US imports come from those same markets. This will be devastating for everyone, the US included. It won’t be the ‘short period of transition’ the bloated diet coke goblin imagines. World trade patterns and supply chains will literally be upended.



  • Countries can and have come back from this. Chile, Germany, Italy, Japan, Spain, Brazil. I hope you guys can pull back from the precipice before you end up like any of those though, because we are all at least somewhat familiar with the hell each of them went through before they came out the other side. Not to mention that some of those descents sparked global conflict.

    Only recently, South Korea had a bit of a scare. Luckily, their institutions were solid and able to mount a robust defence. I don’t know if I am as confident with regard to US institutions.





  • It’s how parliamentary democracy works. The Prime Minister (PM) is elected by Members of Parliament (MPs) who are, in turn, directly elected by canadians. Typically, the Prime Minister is the leader of the largest party, but not always since a coalition of smaller parties could theoretically band together to elect their choice for PM. Carney was just elected leader of The Liberal Party of Canada, the largest party currently sitting in the Canadian lower house, by members of said party.

    Our head of state and commander in chief is King Charles III, whose power is severely limited by constitutional and conventional traditions. Typically, in a parliamentary system, the head of state is merely a figurehead with no ability to influence policy directly.

    Our Cabinet, unlike in the American Presidential system where cabinet members are unelected and appointed by the executive, are by convention chosen by the PM from amongst the directly elected MPs.

    The PM can be forced to resign, alongside their Cabinet of Ministers, when a majority of MPs support a ‘motion/vote of no confidence.’ An election can be called at any time, with the maximum period between elections being 4 years.

    This system of governance is shared with most Parliamentary and Semi-Presidential democracies with some minor differences.