you’re right. we’ve always had fat cat capitalists manipulating the system, but remember that FDR did a lot to curb that AND help win WWII. you can’t just paint all of american history as a bunch of villains.
my entire point is that sometimes it takes a hero, and you can’t win wars by being a pacifist.
The US got fucking lucky that it was geographically extremely difficult for otherwise occupied forces to attack, and therefore didn’t get bombed into rubble, and due to that had all it’s industrial infrastructure intact at the end of the war so it could immediately turn it around to rebuilding all these places, and thus having a massive influx of economic activity by virtue of placement on the globe.
which wouldn’t have been possible without a certain kind of ‘rugged individualism’.
but you’re right. russia fought and bled far more to defeat the nazis. credit where credit is due. both the US and russia are bullies. there will always be a bully. BE THE BULLY AND YOU GET TO DECIDE THE FATE OF THE WORLD. be a pacifist and somebody else will tell you how it’s going to be. wake up.
if the people went after the wealthy first, they could use the spoils to fund the revolution
it’s the fucking truth. capitalism may have hijacked it all, but rugged individualism produced a form of military organization that allowed the US to be extremely effective and is now copied by the rest of the world.
if people hadn’t gotten on boats to escape a rotting europe, there wouldn’t have been an america with boundless resources to produce the military hardware to save your asses.
our history is very tainted, but you guys were the model for colonial expansionism. we were just better at it.
get off your fucking high horse and recognize that being the dominant brute can be the only thing that saves everyone from the other dominant brute. it’s not about the power, it’s what you do with it. let’s combine our powers and kick some nazi ass again instead of endlessly bitching on the internet about how it’s all somebody else’s fault.
as an american anti capitalist, i agree with so much of what you just said and still want to punch you in the mouth.
we became obsessed with glorified violence after SAVING EUROPE FROM THE FUCKING NAZIS. we began to worship our individual heroes after PRODUCING SO MANY OF THEM WHILE FIGHTING THE FUCKING NAZIS. we got into meddling in the affairs of other countries because of our paranoia over preventing A GLOBAL THERMONUCLEAR APOCALYPSE, a consequence of FIGHTING THE GODDAMNED NAZIS.
europe produced the problem and we solved it. the spoils of that war just happened to be the entire fucking world. sorry for winning. maybe we should all focus on KICKING NAZI ASS AGAIN.
law is inherently flawed and easily manipulated by clever sociopaths. chaotic good FTW. let there be guillotines and morally sound citizens and nothing more.
lol. you’re going to have an awakening soon. lemmy is full of rad left. reddit looks moderate by comparison.
yep. i just need to know what’s going on but i don’t need to ‘hang out’. lemmy doesn’t have enough news to see the big picture.
our president is a hypocrite?? wow. this is news to me. well thanks for bringing this to light! i’m sure the people will have a change of heart now!
you seem well informed about military know-how
you don’t need tanks and missiles.
fuck off with that shit. too little too late. ACAB. destroy all religions for the future of humanity
i mean, honestly, here’s europe’s chance to do what they claim americans are too scared to do.
are you just talking about all protestors or all Americans or all liberals
everyone left of center. enough people that they can’t come after us all.
and i don’t see people effectively stopping ICE. i see people making big shows for their social media. if you want results, you have to make them scared to do their job.
You’re inviting martial law.
you’re damn right. we have to be willing to fight them. living in fear of that outcome is defeat. if all they have to do is threaten us, then we’re already defeated.
ridiculous, isn’t it? they’ll show up to stand around doing nothing holding signs, but when asked to actually fight for their beliefs they suddenly become pacifists and cowards.
it’s easy to see why we’ll never win.
you make salient points but so do i, and as you said, the truth isn’t exactly binary. maybe we’re both right. maybe we’re both wrong. the fact remains that the tool that makes the change is raw power in whatever form it takes. you either wield it or someone wields it against you.
i’d love nothing more than to participate in a big old kumbaya love fest, but i can’t do that until the goddamned sociopaths are in the ground.