Thanks that looks like the most attainable way for now. But I would like to have more data in there, such as season temperature trend, 10th and 90th percentile historical values and min/max temperature records, to give context to the data. Also have precipitation. Be able to zoom in and out of the data to get more find grain minute-by-minute, or see the last 5 years at once, and be able to move the “X” position in time, so that I could watch the data, at the minute level, but from 4 years ago. Also I would hope to see the 7 day temperature prediction line

Like this, where the yellow line represents “now” and to the right is predictions

This looks good, although I’m not a fan that it says “non-commercial use” To me that means, we reserve the right to alter the deal. Also it seems to get it’s data from a private company, rather than my local government weather office and their public API, whatever it might be ?

Also, this says it is an API. So would I need to code up an entire web front end to display the data like I would like … ?

I presume, there is some application which can display data of this API ? Are any, like the style I am after ?

I see that it has the historical data so that’s great, maybe I could have the min/maximum recorded temperatures as part of my single temperature view thing, at least, it could do it !

I see there is a 10000 API request limit, so I don’t know if that’s going to work at all. If I just scroll back in time, I imagine it would bust this 10000 request cap very quickly ?

But that does sound like the most promising meteo self-hosted option.

It’s kind of weird we’ve got maps, mail, notes but not weather ?

There are so many people making their own weather stations but it seems here there has not really been someone self-hosting their own weather dashboard !

Maybe it’s a new frontier of selfhosting !

Well they’d have to cut c-suite and shareholder’s cut because everything else that could be squeezed out has already been squeezed out, so the c-suite and shareholder will convert their money into the political power it takes to just block out the competition.

The income stream would disappear, their operations would collapse and that would just be the end. There would not be another manufacturer that would flourish in the void left behind. Without the institutional know how and the existing structure, supply chain the current car manufacturing industry would never be able to restart if it ever stopped.

The social darwinism of the globalist free market is meant for crushing the spirit and bargaining power of individual workers, they are replaceable, disposable, interchangeable. General Motors and Ford aren’t.

Yes grafana does seem like a good framework for building such a thing. But has anyone done it ? It is quite a lot to learn so I’m curious to see if someone has made one of these self-hosted meteo application already.

Ok, I had a look at windy, but it doesn’t seem possible to self-host Their github repo has a lot of stuff, but no web frontend https://github.com/orgs/windycom/

As for meteo.pl, they seem to use rrdtool to generate the graph, but like windy, they graphs are static, no scrolling or putting cursor on the graph to get exact values. Also, meteo.pl doesn’t seem to have any software repository ? It is just a private commercial website ? There doesn’t seem to be something to self-host ?

Yes, that’s starting to look like it. Does it let you zoom out to the whole year without a page load ?

Also, does it work without a local sensor ?

To be clear, I mean something with a user interface that combines multiple aspects of the weather and lets you change the date range by scrolling.

I have not found one of those.

I"m seeing these options

https://weewx.com/showcase.html https://open-meteo.com/ https://meteostat.net/en/

But it’s many many clicks before you see your data.

And then the data looks like this

Static, non-interactive, no data context

Really complex and unintuitive interface that give you data, one static plot at a time

You’d be surprised, many humans have simply no backbone, common sense nor self respect so I think they very probably would still, in large numbers. Proof is facebook and palantir.

Yes, I find it baffling that this does not yet exist. I was installing debian the other day and the incessant one-question-at-a-time installation with long delays between the question was aggravating. In particular since none of these questions really needed to be answered at the time.

Proxmox does it better, but still with annoying questions and limitation like having a mandatory static IP address and making your enter an email address notification. This is all actually optional stuff and it could all be dealt with after the install is completed.

All firefox really needed to be once google took over everything, was to be a viable alternative and find a way to metabolize all this cash in a way that doesn’t damage google’s own cash machine or threaten it’s actual dominance.

For google the pitance they give firefox is a very cheap insurance policy against against anti-trust legislation. Just like Intel with AMD, this shows how toothless the liberal anti-trust legislation are, even if they were really being enforced, they cannot handle a token 2nd player. It cannot handle controlled opposition if it’s credible and believable. So an actual thriving ecosystem doesn’t need to exist, we just get duopolies instead of monopolies but in practices we get ducked up the cloaca just the same.

By photo ID, I don’t mean just any photo, I mean “photo id” cryptographically signed by the state, certificates checked, database pinged, identity validated, the whole enchilada

If the rendering data for scraper was really the problem Then the solution is simple, just have downloadable dumps of the publicly available information That would be extremely efficient and cost fractions of pennies in monthly bandwidth Plus the data would be far more usable for whatever they are using it for.

The problem is trying to have freely available data, but for the host to maintain the ability to leverage this data later.

I don’t think we can have both of these.

If you allow my searchxng search scraper then an AI scraper is indistinguishable.

If you mean, “google and duckduckgo are whitelisted” then lemmy will only be searchable there, those specific whitelisted hosts. And google search index is also an AI scraper bot.

I’m specifically aiming at the “a culture that…” bit.

That the same logic with different garbs. It doesn’t become ok because it’s a “culture wink wink”.

It’s the same weapon used the same way with a tiny lil’ tweak to try dodge criticism.

This is transparent and should not be fooling anyone.

Also you must drink a verification can !

Sounds reasonnable,

Installed should be downloaded by going to grandmasnixos.com On the front page, a single click starts to download a single file, that contains everything It is a tailored rufus executable with the ISO that contains everything to make it to first desktop boot When download ends, no internet connection will be required to make it to grandmasnixos desktop

When the file is clicked and a usb stick has been inserted beforehand, the grandmasnixos ISO is preselected, rufus autochooses the usb stick

User only needs to press “start”

The motherboard version is checked against a lookup table, and the user is told

Reboot computer a press $KEY_TO_USB_BOOT and choose to boot the usb key

Installation is a single screen that says “This will erase everything on this computer, to continue, click the checkbox below” [ ] I understand this will erase everything on my computer buttons below [ ERASE AND INSTALL GRANDMASNIXOS ] or [ CANCEL AND REBOOT] (first button only clickable if the checkbox is checked)

(there is an “Options and settings” button somewhere, it does not have to be clicked to continue)

No further user interaction until it boots into a working desktop

There is no password by default, the desktop auto-logs in, no remote access is possible until a password is set, sudo works passwordless

There should be no updating unless enabled, no telemetry, no call home of any kind, the system should be able to work offline and forever without an internet access and never nag the user.

The desktop environment should be something occasional win10 using grandma will not get lost in

Taskbar at bottom Desktop that you can dump files onto and start stuff by clicking those files systray on the right Large font start menu Start menu includes a single settings panels that does everything a user needs (passwords, wifi, power management, update, timezone, language, locale, host and domain name, remote desktop etc…)

taskbar should have pinned the most important apps file browser, browser, calculator, notepad, word-like and maybe a mail client maybe a zoom? client or something equivalent but open source and usable ?

If updating is turned on, it should be very conservative, updates hand curated by grandmasnixos, basically never uses software that hasn’t been proven rock solid for at least 6 months. Rolling back any update should be one-click-trivial

On first boot there could be an “out of box experience” screen that allows setting up

wifi password region/timezone/locale/language power settings host and domain name password enable updates enable remote desktop and services open easy user guide

So total, from download to desktop it should be 8 clicks total counting press F9 during boot as a “click”

“comes from a culture that lies about everything”

What do you think he meant by that ?

How the logic of his statement works seems very plain to me, we’ve seen that a million times.

This would not be a problem if one bot scraped once, and the result was then mirrored to all on Big Tech’s dime (cloudflare, tailscale) but since they are all competing now, they think their edge is going to be their own more better scraper setup and they won’t share.

Maybe there should just be a web to torrent bridge sovtge data is pushed out once by the server and tge swarm does the heavy lifting as a cache.