

In a conversation that I saw elsewhere, there were points made regarding some fairly cringey elements in the original seasons that would not be well received by progressive audiences now. However, reworking these would invite backlash.
It’s a fine thing to thread around and it’s not obvious that the creators or Fillion are up for it. Fillion in particular has managed to alienate a lot of fans in the past decade.


This looks to be a nonstarter, especially after Hulu cancelled the Buffy reboot. Disney seems to be reigning in and focusing now that it has full control of Hulu.
If the IP was owned by WB or Paramount/CBS, it might have a chance, but this appears to be more of a case of Fillion and the some of the original creators trying to make a case to use the IP than any interest from Disney.


And for me.
One always thinks there will be time. Regrettably, we have to learn the lesson through experience, some of us more than once.


I am going to admit right now that one of the reasons the I’m endeavouring to create a space here to discuss Monarch: Legacy of Monsters (M:LOM) and the Monsterverse, is because the show on AppleTV is getting a lot of coded and outright brigading from some of the same sort of fans in the US specifically.
Legendary Pictures and Television creators have done their best to bring to American, English language Godzilla productions the kind of emotional narratives that were always present in Japanese Godzilla productions no matter the restrictions of an action-focused cinematic feature. (I confess my own fan history with the franchise is with the older Japanese production eras and continuities.)
With 10 episode seasons, M:LOM has plenty of time for complex multigenerational character narratives and is delivering, filling in the gaps in bigger cinematic events. With women in major roles in front and behind the camera, LGBTQ and other representation, it’s intentionally working to draw in a broader demographic with a new entry point. It’s also succeeding in its ranking on AppleTV to the point a spinoff will start production this June.
Yet, it’s got a steady stream of posts along the lines of “I don’t really like those characters, do you?” and “Why are those young people making stupid choices?”
M:LOM’s clear themes of “hurt people hurt people” and consequences for actions are challenging but important, much as the Psychology Today piece says.
Taking on these themes and showing flawed three dimensional characters struggling through them in the context of multigenerational trauma makes for great genre television — providing the “they’re making my franchise woke” voices don’t swamp the show.


This is cool. It’s very small amounts.
The key issue is that they are making antimatter at CERN but the magnetic fields at CERN impede studying/analysing it.
Checking in with a nearby physicist, the amount is so small that even in the worse case it would be unlikely to set off a radiation detector.
In return for this sagesse, I was subjected to several witticisms on the detectable rate of decay in the bananas we have awaiting to be turned into banana bread.


Starfleet Academy appears to be having a Streisand Effect moment in broader media.
Who would have thought that brigading review sites with 1/10 comments and copypasta derision might finally reach the point that even Psychology Today would stop to write a ‘Wait! What?!!’ piece.


Apppreciated.
And we appreciate the new subscribers who’ve been able to find us through this and other discovery-focused communities.


Glad to hear you liked it.
It’s so hard to keep track of shows when they’re only renewed after the season ends and the production timelines are so very long. That’s why it’s exciting to know that there’s a second show going into production and more in development.
Please do join in our weekly discussion threads on Monarch: Legacy of Monsters (aka M:LOM). Our community is just getting going and it’s grey to welcome other enthusiasts.


Not sure what specific canceled show you might be thinking of…
Monsterverse is specifically used for all the movies, comics, games, animated and live-action television made by Legendary (Pictures, Comics, Games, Television etc.) using licensed Toho Godzilla and other kaiju.
The Monsterverse continuity began with Godzilla (2014), then Kong: Skull Island and continued with several more cinematic features. At this point, with 12 years of releases, it is the second longest running continuity in the 70+ years of the Godzilla franchise, with the Showa era remaining the longest.
Monarch: Legacy of Monsters, a partnership between Legendary Television and AppleTV, is viewed as a global success. Its second season is currently in weekly streaming release on AppleTV. It’s being very successful in attracting new fans and expanding the audience for Godzilla and other kaiju.
A second spinoff Monsterverse series focusing on Lee Shaw in a 1980s Cold War context has been greenlit by AppleTV and is starting production in June.
That said, while this community is featuring the Monsterverse continuity, we’re open to posts and discussions about all Toho, Toho licensed and related kaiju media.
Please feel welcome to post and comment about other eras and continuities.


Regrettably region-locked.


I can see Moopsy taking other creatures with bones, but not sure if it can gobble up and consume chitin exoskeletons.
If it can drink exoskeletons though, it would be threat even to much larger monsters.
But it’s sooooo cute!


My Whovian knowledge is clearly lacking.
Rounded features, big eyes and mouths full of sharp nastiness definitely seems a theme.

Why doesn’t Lemmy have a polling functionality?!!


This tracks with the usual definition in international relations.
e.g., International grant funding — whether to UN organizations like WHO and UNDP or directly to other countries and programs through US AID and its counterparts — is generally considered as important ‘soft power’ mechanisms. In principle, the recipients of the grants and loans are in control of their governance but as these are long term relationships, the donor countries have significant strategic influence.
This is why foreign affairs specialists have commented that, beyond the moral and ethical considerations in the elimination of US AID funding — and lesser contractions in international grants by other NATO donor countries shifting budgets to prioritize defence build ups — mean that the US and NATO donor countries are giving up soft power.
Meanwhile, China and the Saudis are reportedly gaining influence through direct and indirect investment, foreign aid grants and loans etc.


I’m rather wondering if this kind of advertising targeting GenX middle aged and senior men is an inevitable coda to the 1990s wave of colonic irrigation humour.


Prof. Sam Lawler, cited in the article as a critic/skeptic, is very active on Mastodon @sundogplanets@mastodon.social and interesting to follow.


Uhm, didn’t physicist David Keith of Harvard, better know for his work on carbon capture, do something like this in the early 1990s in building the early atom interferometers?
He didn’t pursue the development as the applications were military at that time but my recollection was that he created a lab bench sized generator.
Filion made unfortunate statements defending Joss Wheadon and arguing that he should be “uncanceled.’’
https://nypost.com/2022/06/23/nathan-fillion-wants-joss-whedon-uncanceled-so-they-can-work-together-again/
https://insidethemagic.net/2022/06/nathan-fillion-joss-whedon-controversy-ct1/
There are widespread reports of toxicity between Fillion and his Castle costar Stana Kari’s.
https://www.hellomagazine.com/film/20230131163149/nathan-fillion-feud-co-star-stana-katic-details-castle/
In 2019, a cast member of The Rookie quit citing sexual harassment and racial discrimination.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/rookie-star-quits-claims-she-faced-sexual-harassment-racial-discrimination-1229109/