The Gooner Liberation Front will rise

I know you’re joking, but this is an unironic theory of what fascism is. It’s called the Imperial Boomerang

You could at least cite the Zapatistas, or something.

The Haudenosaunee might be considered ‘primitive communism’ though I think that’s an unfair characterization, while I think Engles and Lewis Henry Morgan were ultimately correct in their broad assertions about origins of the family and class stratification, the particular focus on the Haudenosaunee was based on a lingering, erroneous, assumption that indigenous Americans were somehow more primitive, or existed in some ‘state of nature’.

But it’s even more of a stretch to assert that the modern Haudenosaunee, as a cultural and political entity are Communist in the modern political sense. There is no coherent Haudenosaunee sovereignty movement that also has strong anarchist or Marxist ideological convictions, akin to what we see with Neozapatismo.

But if you have a counter argument, I’d like to hear it.

Western leftism is plagued by a culture of purity. Only upholding failed projects, because they never actually had to contend with the messy realities of governance.

I adore my T-480! I put Linux Mint on it, and it does everything I need it to do, with basically no fuss, and no garbage from Microsoft or Google

Lmao what a fucking racist loser! You can’t even respond with anything meaningful

I agree that it’s bad manners. I accidentally hit reply before I was done. Idk what to tell you, shit happens.

But That’s why I summarized. But it’s deeply immature of you to look for any excuse to not engage with someone who is disagreeing with you in good faith.

Russia isn’t even a part of this discussion. I’m honestly more offended by your opinions of teenagers.

But that aside, it’s not about “defending” these States. It’s that your tone is dripping with orientalist racism

I made an edit to my original post that is relevant to your comment here.

But in brief, as someone you might consider one of these “Stalinists” I have no interest in gatekeeping Anarchists. We are a part of the same broad political tradition, and the ultimate end goal we seek to achieve is the same.

I have a great respect for my fellow socialists of other tendencies, be they Anarchists, Maoists, Trotskyists, etc. And consider their struggles to be my struggle as well, and I make common cause with people I disagree with in my own organizing all of the time, despite our ideological disagreements.

What? No, it’s specifically Anarchists who want to speed run straight to communism. Marxists want to seize the state and guide it through a transitional stage (often called Socialism), which will end in the withering away of the state, and thus lead to Communism.

This was the whole nature of the split in the First International between Marx and Proudhoun.

To your point about Orwell, bringing up 1984 doesn’t make a ton of sense here, as that’s a book that is much more about fascism. Case in point, Immanuel Goldstein, the avatar of everything that Oceania opposes, is a man with a Jewish name.

Animal Farm, meanwhile, comes from Orwell’s experience in the Spanish Civil War, where he was largely embedded with the Partido Obrero de Unificación Marxista (POUM). The POUM were more ideology diverse than history gives them credit for, but was largely composed of what we would today consider Trotskyists.

That experience, coupled with his experience as a journalist during WW2, unable to publish his trotskyist influenced criticisms of the USSR due to wartime state repression, ultimately lead him to write Animal Farm.

The Stalin analogue pig is named Napoleon in large part due to debates between MLs and Trotskyists about the nature of world historical revolutions, since their only point of comparison was France, which ended up with Napoleon in charge. Was Stalin a Napoleon of Socialism? Was that a necessary phase in these sorts of revolutionary processes? Things like that are what Animal Farm is gesturing towards.

All of that aside though. I think it’s needlessly limiting to lop yourself off into an ideological box and say “Only my pet socialist experiment is the Real one!”

As Socialists, Communists, Anarchists, etc. Whatever our ideological convictions, we all have the same ultimate goal, and are apart of the same broad tradition.

I have stark disagreements with my Anarchist friends, but they’re still my comrades, and I still respect many things about their commitment to direct action, and will defend their political projects, current and historic, to the hilt. Our struggle is ultimately the same, and we have much to learn from one another.

Sees teenagers doing dumb shit, like they have since literally forever

“Is this a plot by the despotic orientals?!”

Fucking listen to yourself. I’m not on TikTok. I just don’t care for vertical short-form video as a concept. But even I can tell you that not every TikTok trend is teenagers being destructive idiots.

How can they be tankies AND give a shit about what the Pope says?

There are Catholic Communists. The world does not conform to your perception of drama on a tiny collection of web forums.

Neocities.org is pretty straightforward it’s a revival of Geocities. People make personal websites or sites for their weird niche interests. It has a very minor social media component where you can ‘follow’ people’s sites, and you get updates when they get edited.

Gemini is a web protocol, like HTTP, but it’s text focused, and geared towards non-corporate, hobbyist use. It has a mirror of Wikipedia, its own search engines, a BBS board, etc. To access it you’d need a special web browser. I happen to really like Lagrange

I’ve been to many a protest, and those put on by liberals (as compared to those put on by further left organizations), aren’t so much focused on leveraging any kind of power, so much as they’re focused on the aesthetic act of protest.

It’s protest as a way to cleanse oneself of the sins of the moment. To say that you “Did something” whether or not that something had any material impact. It’s about feeling good, not doing good.

Is it just me, or is musk profiting off of selling people tech before it’s actually ready?

Today’s vocab word is Vaporware

And Marginalia Search for non-corporate, independent, stuff

https://test.marginalia.nu/

Neocities, the Fediverse, and Gemini Protocol sites are where I spend the vast majority of my online free-time, and it’s so much more pleasant than the big corporate slop websites

And Hitler was a Vegetarian. Does that mean vegitarians should simp for Hitler because “he had at least one good idea?” I should hope not! Furthermore if they do, even if they only simped for his vegetarianism and not his “political career,” it is gonna come off a bit different than they intend to most people.

Hitler being a vegetarian had nothing to do with his fascism. Mao’s Epistemology was built on Stalin’s synthesizing of Marxism-Leninism from the works of Lenin and the experiences of the Russian Civil War, etc.

There’s actual political philosophy here that we can think through, debate, apply, update, and revise. Mistakes or outright malicious behavior can be learned from or discarded as necessary, because Marxism has within it mechanisms for self criticism and recitification.

You can ascribe to that philosophy or not, I don’t care. But this kind of kneejerk reaction isn’t in line with the way these discussions actually happen within Marxism.

Do dogmatic Marxists who blindly defend bad shit exist? Yes. But they’re commonly denounced and criticized for their garbage analysis.

You’re taking a small subset of, mostly online weirdos, and stawmanning my position, and an entire branch of political philosophy.

By all means, keep those subs dedicated to defending all those atrocities and simping for despots, but people likely won’t be fooled into thinking they only care about epistemology while they say nothing happened in Tienanman Square without a shred of irony

Buddy, I’m not trying to pull wool over your eyes or be sneaky. I literally said to not do this shit. I’m trying to get people to engage with these topics with nuance and critical thinking skills. Not blindly screech uniformed praise or condemnation based on kneejerk, emotional, preconceptions.

Mao and Stalin (though to a noticably lesser extent) actually had insightful things to say though. Mao’s essays on epistemology are genuinely really fantastic. And that can be true alongside all of the show trials and sparrow murder which was genuinely really fucking bad.

Pol Pot meanwhile admitted to never having really ever read Marx, and his faction of the Communist Party of Cambodia was more concerned about Khmer ultranationalism and anti-Vietmamese sentiment that had been brewing over the course of French colonialism, then with anything to do with building socialism.

So, I guess what I’m saying is that we ought to take a nuanced, grounded view of historic socialisms that accounts for their success and failures, and doesn’t fall into either mindless exoneration of awful shit, nor reflexively screeching “TANKIE TANKIE!!!” Every time anything vaguely socialist oriented comes up in discussion.