There are multiple *reputable *car and truck magazines that say range of the F150 Lightning drops in half while towing. https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/ford-f150-lightning-electric-truck-towing-test
MotorTrend real world range with no trailer: 255 miles.
Range with light, medium and heavy trailer: 115, 100 and 90 miles.
BIG range killer. Heavy trailer kills range to almost 1/3 of unloaded range.
The Lightning is particularly bad for towing.
Its a cool truck IF you dont need to tow anything.
But a LOT of contractors tow trailers. Building supply trailers, tool trailers, heavy equipment trailers, air compressor trailers and then on the weekend pulling holiday trailers, boat trailers and sometimes car trailers or moving trailers - there’s a lot of things that get pulled by pickups - and they royally suck for range once you’re pulling. Range drops very dramatically.
Its one thing to pull into a gas station and refuel but MOST charging stations aren’t even set up as pull throughs, so a trailer is a major pain in the butt. The entire point of a new ‘tool’ like the Lightning is to make your life easier and more convenient, not less.
I will say though, that the new Silverado EV has surprisingly long range for an EV. Reportedly up to 800 km with no load and even at half range, 400 km while towing is still usable, not outstanding, but usable.
Im glad they have some safeguards now. By the sound of it, ChatGPT 4o didnt. If they put in a safeguard and people use a workaround, I dont see how the creators would be liable. Cant disable your airbags and run into a tree and blame the auto maker.
One would think the programmers would have put in some safeguards that would trigger and AI would tell the user “If you’re feeling suicidal you should call 988 the National Suicide Crisis Line.”
Huh. Have never seen that before. Pretty fascinating stuff.
Astounding really. In every science fiction story I ever read and every movie I ever watched as a kid, the robots were supposed to burst through the door and kill us with lasers. No one ever imagined they’d be on our phones successfully encouraging us to kill ourselves. Way too dystopian.
Not explicitly, no, but I wouldn’t consider holding the head of someone I cared about and who had just helped me through a desperately traumatizing event odd. The world needs a little more compassion and empathy and less criticism.
It appears no one here has lost a loved one. When you do, the people who show up for you are deeply appreciated. A 3 second hug is hardly an issue when someone has been there to help you reclaim and return your husband’s body.
Thanks Im old enough and cranky enough to join in :)
(For you youngsters that :) is a smiling emoji made with a keyboard like we did back in the day before yer newfangled phones and such)
Well, its not ‘some letter’ written by ‘some guy’. It’s actually the law now that it’s passed. There may be wildcat strikes because of it but it’s still the law, like it or not. Whether it withstands a court test is another matter.
Oh, didnt know that. Thanks.
That seems like a lot of words to say EV trucks suck at towing especially the Lightning.
The very nature of almost all trailers is that they dont have great aerodynamics, especially holiday trailers, a primary reason why people buy a pickup truck.