Then I believe you I missed the comparison.

I’m not suggesting that in both cases, a government is doing things to make “bad choices” harder. I’m suggesting that in both cases a government is disproportionately punishing the less wealthy to get what it wants. In neither case does the government gives a shit if you, individually, lead a healthier life or have a child. It wants you to generate more wealth for the country, whether that be by demanding less for health care costs or by producing the next worker drone.

The point in the sugar tax comparison, a real thing that happened in parts of Canada by the way, is that the government should be reducing the costs of the healthy choices, not making the unhealthy choices more expensive, as people were largely turning to unhealthy choices because they were cheaper and do not have the wealth to make better choices. Likewise, if the Chinese government wants to improve the birth rate of its population, they should make childcare more affordable and look to give parents more wealth/time, not attempt to punish them financially for preventing a pregnancy. Punishing a population that is making the choice you don’t want them to make out of necessity isn’t the solution to get them to make the choice you want. “Poor tax” is never a good solution, and that’s what the comparison is: two versions of “poor tax.”

This is some “people aren’t choosing healthy food, so raise the taxes on sugar” shit.

How about building a society and economy where having children doesn’t feel like an overwhelming detriment to the parent’s and child’s well-being?

I got curious and started Googling. Apparently China has VERY recently created a subsidy for parents, and finally begun creating support for early childhood care centers, which have traditionally been apparently prohibitively expensive due to privatization (In MY “Communist” China?). It’s good to see there is some actual social progress being implement alongside the hair-brained capitalist schemes that only serve to do harm to the poorest classes. But hey, fuck the points if it keeps the economy going, right?

The only war is class war.

And yet, you play the role of Chinese-MAGA. It’s unfortunate that the irony is lost on you.

C’mon man, there’s a lot of things to be said for how braindead of a take OP’s is, but throwing slurs around isn’t the play either.

Or, think about it this way: suggesting they were born facing serious mental and intellectual struggles is excusing their behaviour. This isn’t something they did because they were born unlucky. It’s a choice they made. They should have to own that, and we should hold them accountable as best as we can.

It’s about time for the Imperialists to start this again, I see.

To be clear, I am extremely pro-immigration, but many of the immigration policies as written are tools used to suppress wages. This is the reason we see so many immigrants, often with degrees and training we refuse to recognize in Canada, in low paying, minimum wage jobs. I personally had the pleasure of working with a wonderful woman from the middle east who was a qualified teacher, stuck working 30 hours a week in a grocery store deli because we refused to recognize her degree or decade of experience. She spoke perfect English, was incredibly pleasant, and visibly intelligent and well-mannered, but she’s a brown immigrant, so fuck it, minimum wage for her.

We can take immigrants at the rate we have been while not using them to further wealth inequalities. But as a friend of mine says, the purpose of a system is what it does, and the current iteration is not about creating a multi-cultural nation.

For additional clarity, this isn’t to say that you’re wrong and immigration isn’t being used as a scapegoat. I’d just argue that the problem is more substantial than simply calling the issue a scapegoat suggests. There is a real problem, but it’s not in that we’re accepting immigrants at all; it’s the conditions we’ve agreed to accept them under.

Oh, absolutely, World News is filled with people praising the west for cracking down on protests, they’re clearly very pro-government.

/s and fuck off with your nonsense. This place is incredibly critical of basically every decision a major government makes.

Man, I’m not happy about it, but I can’t get quality Internet in my location, so I think? I am happy to have a Starlink competitor that isn’t openly a neo-nazi, even if it is my second least favorite well-known billionaire. Or maybe third, pending whether or not you believe Trump is as wealthy as he claims to be.

God, this timeline has set my bar so fucking low. Essential services like Internet need to be made public ASAP.

What? China acting like an Imperialist Dictstorship? But that’s only something that happens in disgusting capitalist Western nations, never in glorious, Communist China!

/s, before I’m mistaken for one of the Tankies that are, I am sure, about to blow up this thread.

Not gonna lie, “Treaty of Verseye” sent me.

You’re saying Marx while advocating for a Stalin-style dictatorship. Any proletariat uprising that depends on a separate class to perform in any position of dictatorship is a fascist - as was the case with Russia - or capitalist - as in China - regime in disguise.

I have never claimed to support any form of liberalism. That was a stance you imposed on me when I attacked your politics.

But, I digress, you kept it civil, I’ll take the opportunity to flip my attitude and do the same. While I still do not respect your politics, everyone deserves proper care, and everyone deserves to rest. I genuinely do hope you heal well.

So you agree? Xi Jiping is a dictator?

My friend, if you think dictatorship is a progressive step towards communism, I have a bridge you can hand ownership of to the state.

For someone who wants to try and play semantics, you’re quite quick to throw yourself, and your argument, under the bus. Perhaps pick a game you’re good at. You’re embarrassing your glorious leader over here.

Of course I’m angry. Tankies defending a state-capitalist autocracy pisses me off, as it should any rational, progressive human being. The “Internet tough-guy calling people angry” schtick doesn’t dissuade china’s aggression to the sovereign nation of Taiwan, un-genocide any Ugyhur lives, or free China’s “totally not homeless” population out of the concentration camps the state uses to hold up their economy. My anger is well directed, and your attempt to belittle that isn’t the “own” that you and your fascist ilk seem to believe it is.

Fuck the States. This thread isn’t about them, their history of racism, or their rapid descent into fascism. This thread is about China disappearing a dissenter for “reeducation,” and this conversation is about how you’re a fresh account, happy to dismiss any criticism of your glorious fascist state as “American propaganda” with no logic other than “they said stuff I don’t like so it must be an American psyop.” No amount of whataboutism will change that you’re a dishonest actor, openly mocking one imperialist nation, while shilling for another.

Account created one week ago and has literally only ever bothered to post in a thread that calls out fascist China for doing horrible fascist things?

Which one of you hexbear, .ml fake-ass leftist nutjobs is hiding behind this account?

“You can have peace. Just surrender to our rule!”

Reminder that bullying exists from the school yard all the way to international politics.

“quiet piggy” is unacceptable, but the country was totally chill with “grab her by the pussy,” or mocking a disabled reporter.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad America seems to be waking up, but c’mon. If this bothers you, but the previous incidents didn’t, maybe you should be re-evaluating your opinions.

So, they’ve been doctored and/or redacted to the point of not saying anything. There’s no way this sudden, absurd 180 isn’t a direct result of some degree of ratfucking.

His post titled “The Jews have colonized Gaza” is honestly among his best hits.

Imagine seeing the sitting fucking president of the United States being linked to these acts of child trafficking and pedophilia and being like “what about all these irrelevent, old politicians who don’t have power and aren’t actively making relevant decisions about US policy?”

They should get theirs, but this might be the most disgusting whataboutism I’ve ever seen.

They entrench themselves into capitalism so deeply because it allows them to do exactly that. Wealth is virtue, because the invisible hand gives those who contribute more, and those who don’t less. Please ignore all the systems that ensure the wealthy stay wealthy while the poor have no way in; you’d have to be “woke” to believe those systems exist.