Yeah for sure, but I think it’s a bit misleading to make it sound like only owners of capital (be it corrupt haute bourgeoisie or human trafficking capitalists) get executed. I don’t know the numbers but I’d assume since murder and drug trafficking are also punishable by death, that means most of the people executed are workers, not capitalists.

but in the case of China it’s largely for corrupt CEOs and sexual assaulters.

Isn’t drug trafficking and murder also punishable by death?

Just my own perspective, but I don’t think it’s really accurate to say that latinos of mixed descent always stop being settlers. Some are indigenous as you say, but I think most of us still count as settlers. We definitely aren’t indigenous (except in the context of the colonial relationship between our countries and the imperial core) in the strict political sense, and we live in (predominantly) unceded territory. I don’t know if there’s a single country in LatAm that isn’t a settler colony as a result of these facts, I’d probably hazard to say no but there’s a few I’m pretty ignorant about.

It’s interesting, in Puerto Rico I’ve often heard the term “North Americans” used to refer to inhabitants of the 50 states, even though North America is a region that includes other countries and even PR itself.

The whole thing where you gotta copy a sentence from Principles of Communism to join makes it pretty clear, but yeah maybe it ought to be signposted more. It seems like lemmy.ml isn’t really the “default” lemmy instance anymore, so IMHO it would come at little cost to be transparent about its ideological tilt.

Disclaimer: this is my alt account and I’m not really a .ml user, I don’t want to come across as an authority on this matter

anti-Western dictatorships are actually the good guys and all working together (somehow, despite visibly hating each other a lot of the time).

I’m from Hexbear which is generally more extreme than .ml and this idea seems absurd to me. Who is saying that e.g. Russia is a close ally of Ansarallah?

There’s another side to this. I’m originally from Hexbear and only started checking out what the experience of someone on an instance that isn’t massively defederated looks like. Lemmy.ml’s meme comms are full of tankie ragebait, but then there’s multiple .world communities that are the same, but they’re liberal ragebait. The difference is that .world’s ideology is hegemonic while .ml’s is fringe. But to someone who isn’t a liberal, looking at a Lemmy front page when .world is on that front page also has a lot of propagandistic content with little news or entertainment value; you probably just don’t realize it.

Edit: A period of time where the proletariat organizes power to eliminate the bourgeoisie in order to get rid of those previous class divides, is not authoritarianism.

Ok, so how can this be done in such a way that it is not? Were the Soviets, Cubans, Vietnamese, Chinese, Koreans, Venezuelans, Laotians, Grenadians, Nicaraguans, Tanzanians, Angolans, Zimbabweans, and Burkinabes just not quite smart enough to figure it out?

what is the difference between socialism and communism?

I remain at the same place, yet to understand how one can be a communist and not authoritarian. And I feel like you’re failing to interrogate whether your concept of authoritarianism is being used with any amount of consistency or if it’s just a club you wield against people who have positions you disagree with for other reasons.

Anarchists are cool, but they’re really only a minority of communists worldwide. Whatever you think “authoritarianism” is (as far as I’m concerned if you believe in having a state at all, then that state will exercise a monopoly on violence and will be repressive) it describes almost every single communist on planet earth. The game of splitting hairs on what does and doesn’t count as a “tankie” achieves nothing but divide a movement that has common cause.

If I’m being forthright, I’ll just go ahead and ask: if anarchists are the only communists, why even have the concept of “tankies” at all? Why not just say you’re pro-anarchist and anti-communist? From my perspective, all that the whole thing of saying that there supposedly are communists who aren’t “tankies” achieves is create two categories:

• Real people who exist in the real world and have actual, flawed political movements
• Imaginary perfect people that only exist in your head

Then because you can find real examples of the first category, you can find the flaws they have, and compare them to the ideal people in the second category. But maybe I’m wrong, maybe there really are a ton of Marxists out there that figured out the secret to having a perfectly consistent anti-authoritarian ideology that is still distinct from anarchism. If you could let me know who they are, that’d be awesome.

If you disagree that .ml are communist and insist that they’re “tankies” instead, it seems to imply that not all communists are “tankies.” However, every single communist I’m aware of is called a tankie. What does a communist who isn’t a tankie look like? Are there examples of such a thing?

Osama Bin Laden and I happen to have the same position that the end of the USA as a political entity would be a positive thing. I probably also agree with him that breathing and having meals is necessary for survival.

Are either of those propositions made less true by virtue of Osama also believing them?

It’s not legal to be critical of the state of Israel in a general sense in Germany, at least. You can be jailed for comparing Israel to the Nazis, for calling for the dissolution of the state of Israel, or for various other anti-Zionist positions. I mean, here’s Ursula Von Der Leyen telling protesters ‘in Russia you would be arrested’ while they were actively being arrested for their political position.

Meanwhile, I read criticism of Chinese foreign policy all the time. @QinShiHuangsShlong@hexbear.net, @CloutAtlas@hexbear.net, @Flyberius@hexbear.net and @xiaohongshu@hexbear.net are Hexbear accounts that are users from China who post about their criticisms of Chinese foreign policy.

Okay, thank you, I don’t know why it was necessary to drag the thread out for so many comments to get a source out of you when I was upfront with the sources I used to justify my original claims.

I’ll have to peruse through the sources cited there tomorrow, sadly I’m a little busy right now.

Okay, so it’s not a quote? It’s just information from your mind? Can you tell me what the source of the information was?

No, I’m willing to admit that what China did is really horrible and can rightfully justify putting them as Darth Vader in the meme. I’m saying that Europe doesn’t get to be Luke.

This string exists in your comment:

Weird way to write “being repressed, being subject to forced labour, ideological and political “reeducation”, being restricted in exercising their religious beliefs to the point of muslim names being prohibited, being subject to abuse and internment, etc. pp, all that to degrees where several experts classify CCPs course against Uighurs in Xinjiang as a genocide.”

The 19th character of that string is ". The last character is also a ". Where I come from we call that a quote.

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Where’s that quote from?