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  • I am talking about a single country, yet you can’t seem to focus on a single timeframe.

    You mention centuries old generalized stuff such that it could be applied to most any nation. Do you not remember this?

    You mean like genocide, slavery…

    Then you said…

    Other countries don’t count. We’re taking about this country…

    We’re taking about now. Not the 1800s. So one more time for the backseats…

    Saying the US had slavery to make a point is lazy and doesn’t help the here and now. Yea those things happened, they fucking sucked, and they should be condemned on their own merit alone. Using them to end a conversation on current issues is poor form and low hanging fruit. Especially when you generalize such that most every industrialized nation is just as guilty. The fact is that guilt isn’t the end of the story. Ask Germany




  • Aside from nuclear weapons you are describing practically every nation state since ever, especially post Industrial Revolution. To the point that the argument is useless. The US is just as bad as Britain, France, Spain, the Dutch, the history of the Russian empire, Japan, china, the current state of many African counties etc etc!

    It’s also worth mentioning how the US is such strong allies with the very country they dropped a bomb on and helped with reconstruction through and beyond the Meiji era and continued to be an ally to Japan…

    No one anywhere near this thread is advocating for those thing so what are you getting at other than saying boo! ghosts!? Sooo…