• misk@piefed.socialOP
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    2 days ago

    Man can’t be responsible for all the nice things in Steam but absolved of creating a lootbox/gambling empire.

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      2 days ago

      No, I mean he literally does not run those. It’s like blaming the bank for ‘running a drug empire’ when someone buys some weed.

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        2 days ago

        Isn’t he CEO of Valve, a company with famously lean amount of staff?

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          2 days ago

          Yes, he’s the president of Valve, not the CEO of multiple online casinos for underage customers. Those generally are not based in the US in the first place.

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            2 days ago

            Why did various EU regulators had to tell Valve that their gambling business is illegal? It remains legal in some and so he continues to run them there.

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              Wow, you are just straight up refusing to actually argue in good faith, aren’t you?

              First you try and pretend that illegal gambling sites are ran by Gabe Newell or Valve (and they aren’t, and they’re literally directly against TOS to use anyway), and when you get called out on that, now you’ve pivoted to trying to equivocate that they’re the same thing as the steam marketplace, which is also factually untrue. Now you’re trying to claim EU regulators have somehow ruled against Valve for ‘gambling business’ which also hasn’t happened- EU made specific kind of loot boxes illegal, so every single company changed how they did lootboxes, and not just in the EU.

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                Lootboxes are gambling. Courts in multiple jurisdictions like Netherlands, Belgium or Austria off top of my head agree. I realise it’s normalised in some countries and some people don’t want to admit they have a problem, but that doesn’t mean people have to accept it.

                You’re not the best at googling I guess.

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                  Look at them goalposts move.

                  1. Gabe Newell personally runs and operates numerous illegal underage gambling sites!
                  2. Well ok, maybe he doesn’t, but he owns an underage gambling storefront!
                  3. Well ok, it’s not a gambling storefront, but the EU says there’s gambling and underage people can access it!
                  4. Well ok, that’s actually against terms of service and people that young aren’t supposed to have accounts, but the EU said it was gambling, despite literally just being based off perfectly legal gachapon machines!
                  5. Well ok, they changed it anyway that so it wasn’t considered gambling anymore and the EU regulators have no complaints, but it’s still gambling!

                  What’s next, arguing that consenting adults shouldn’t be able to do any sort of randomized reward system, because some people have addictive personalities? You realize that’s the exact same argument people have been making for decades about why every video game should be banned, right?

                  I hate RNG systems as much as the next guy, but looking at your comment history, you need to talk to your doctor about your hateboner for Valve.