The 24-year-old was born in Phoenix and is a member of Arizona’s Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community. She was booked into the Polk County Jail in Des Moines, Iowa, where she currently lives, in September for allegedly driving with a suspended license. Jacobo was scheduled to be released on Nov. 11, but what should have been a routine process was complicated and delayed by an erroneously issued ICE detainer. She was ultimately allowed to leave just before 4:30 a.m. on Nov. 12.
Yes but… they could just hand them the sitation and let them go at the arraingment. They don’t have to spend tax payer money and keep them in jail. They do that part out of spite.
I’ve watched videos of sovcits somehow managing to make their arraignment (a normally short procedure where you simply get told the alleged charges, the potential penalties, get asked if you understand them, and what do you plead, and whether you wish to proceed for a jury or a bench trial) last hours
Sovcits usually decide to go for jury trial (because you can’t make law from the bench or something…) over something that’s a ticket, which, well, take time. Time they spent in jail, because they were arrested for obstruction in the first place. When they get released on bond, they violate their bond and don’t show up in court and then get issued a bench warrant and end up in jail.
Sovcits do everything that can be done to end up in jail, and then act shocked when that happens.
Of course not all sovcits are the same. But I have heard the real ones are no fan of these youtube wannabe sovcits. That said. Sounds like they are playing on the judges egos. There is a default answer to all of those initial questions if the person refuses to answer with y/n or guilty/not… The judge doesn’t have to lets it last for hours. But from my and others I knows experience with judges and jury duty, judges seem to be more than happy to waste time telling people how they should be respected and such. I am sure not all judges are like that of course. But they seem to be hell bent to establish thier power over people. Even at conferences outside the courthouse. The job doesn’t seem to attract a humble bunch.
It’s not about ego.
Rulebooks that pertain to court things are hundreds of pages long in a bid to be fair and equitable for everyone. Things are done in a way for a reason, you can’t just yolo justice. At an arraignment, the judge needs to determine a couple things:
This is to prevent shenanigans
if the first step already takes 30 minutes because you refuse to even give your name, then when you finally ID yourself, you then proceed to constantly interrupt, delay, whinge, contest, refuse to understand, be a living man of morroco, etc, all the way when it’s time to plead and you spend an extra 45 minutes being like “I wish to be left alone” instead of pleading… then yeah. Either the judge takes the time for you to run out of bullshit and the arraingment ends with you arraigned, or they have a full docket and will send you to jail for contempt and try again the next day.
They don’t need the defendant to do anything to confirm they are who they are supposed to be. Where do you get this? The prosecution can provide fingerprint evidence, ID from the file, not the person… judge can ask once “are you …”. If the answer is not yes or no, he can warn them that the prosecutions evidence will be dnough if they don’t answer. And if yhey still don’t, just accept that evidrnce and move on. 5 minutes tops.
If they keep interrupting, move them to a room where they join by video and are muted when it isn’t thier turn to speak. This “can” be done. But the judges I have knowledge don’t tend to choose efficiency.
Brother I just watched a video of a sovcit saying “My name is all rights reserved” when asked.
which takes more time
which takes more time and not all courtrooms are equipped like that. Also, when it’s their turn to speak, sovcits generally go on long, stupid tangeants, that delay, take time, and generally end them with them in jail for contempt in the end because the judge repeatedly told them to either plead guilty, not guilty, or no contest, that it’s their only 3 options, and instead the paint chip eaters ramble on about maritime law of the moorish kings.
IDK why you defend sovcits so hard mate, are you one of them? Do you believe laws don’t apply to you because you’re wearing a fez or something?
You’re arguments just don’t hold any water. After covid nearly every court and jail has the capacity to do trial by video. Yet you think the very few who don’t make it so the majority must spend hours on a 15 minute procedure. You somehow think the prosecution doesn’t bring all the identification evidence to trail normally? It’s all in the file. The judge simply needs to turn the page. Does that add minutes to the procedure, maybe, but not hours.
I am not defending thier courtroom behavior, I am pointing out that their are systems in place to keep the impact of their behaviour to a minimum, just because of thier egos, judges generally don’t choose to use those systems. It’s not an either or situation. Both parties can be the cause of the issue.
mate idk what to tell you but you can just look it up yourself and see how it happens when a sovcit is involved. There’s thousands of videos on youtube.
you can put a guy in a private room and mute him when it’s not his turn to talk, but when it’s his turn to talk and you ask him if he understand his rights and he immediately goes and rambles about not standing under the rules of the tribunal corporation because the oath of office bonds says the judge must uphold the constitution, it’s still going to take time.
But sure, it’s because of the egotistical judges…
Or they end up in jail for contempt.
The constitution does not grant the right to defendants to ramble on endlessly on unrelated topics. I get it, you watched some youtube videos where the judge let them ramble and think it must be required. You shouldn’t believe everything you see on youtube. It’s entertainment, not facts. Sometimes it’s both, but not often.