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    3 days ago

    I personally get freaked out when everyone gets super pumped up about treating a group as being subhuman and worthy of death, because that’s basically the same argument people used against the immigrants and look where that went as soon as they got power.

    Also, I have no idea what a typical ICE employee is like; it is possible that most or at least a significant fraction have never engaged in any fascist acts and have no desire to. Heck, for all I know, that ICE employee you took joy in watching die was actually working hard within the organization to try and make things better precisely because the violence was bothering them as much as it bothers you.

    So, I totally oppose the fascist things that ICE does, and don’t really even have a problem with people calling it a fascist organization since that is how it is being run from the top down, and I would even go so far as to say that no moral person can be associated with them at this point (although I have sympathy for the people who were working there before things took a sharp turn for the worse). But having said that, I prefer to follow the words of the Tao Te Ching, Chapter 31:

    Good weapons are instruments of fear; all creatures hate them.
    Therefore followers of the Tao never used them.
    The wise man prefers the left.
    The man of war prefers the right.

    Weapons are instruments of fear; they are not a wise man’s tools.
    He uses them only when he has no choice.
    Peace and quiet are dear to his heart.
    And victory no cause for rejoicing.
    If you rejoice in victory, then you delight in killing;
    If you delight in killing, you cannot fulfill yourself.

    On happy occasions precedence is given to the left,
    On sad occasions to the right.
    In the army the general stands on the left,
    The commander-in-chief on the right.
    This means that war is conducted like a funeral.
    When many people are being killed,
    They should be mourned in heartfelt sorrow.
    That is why a victory must be observed like a funeral.

    So I (optimistically) look forward to the day when everyone doing these terrible things is locked away for our safety, or killed if absolutely necessary, but I do not rejoice in the prospect, except insofar as it means the end of the terrible suffering that they are inflicting on others.