Yeah, well you know uhh, that’s just like my opinion, man. And without pricing it is hard to say if under or over powered. But I think it is thoughtfully designed. Looks like it is well-cooled, expandable storage, programmable light strip, and you can install whatever you want in it.
It’s underpowered. That’s not debatable. It’s also a full generation (or 2 depending on release date) behind in GPU architecture with it being only RDNA3. That has big implications, one being it is stuck on FSR3, which is crazy considering it will heavily rely on on FSR due to being so weak.
Having a programmable light strip doesn’t make it “thoughtfully designed” lol. Well cooled means nothing when it’s so under-specced.
It’s a low spec SFF PC. That’s cool, but let’s not pretend it’s amazing hardware. The best thing about it is its size tbh.
No, I meant precisely what I wrote. The point being that if it were $4, “underpowered” would be an absurd way to describe it, because value is a function of cost versus benefit, where benefit is subjective.
Not really. This is made to play current games, and it’s underpowered for that no matter what the price is. It could still be great value while being underpowered.
Think about it like this - if you expect to play cyberpunk, would a $1 raspberry pi that can play it at 1fps be underpowered? It’s still great value at $1, but surely you can agree that for the job at hand it is underpowered?
Yes I agree, if we can move the goalposts where ever we want, you might have a point for your own narrow view. But there will be people that believe what it delivers to be suitable for playing the games they want to play, in which case it won’t be underpowered. Which means its status as underpowered… is debatable.
Agreed, but if it’s like $500, then it’ll make a nice addition to the living room for couch co-op games with the kids and possibly serve as a decent HTPC. 4K technically isn’t false advertising, but let’s be real, this is made for 1080p to be upscaled to 4K where most people won’t notice from the couch. Anyone who wants 4K on a monitor up close with 60 fps on ultra is not the target market and is instead looking for a PC where the GPU alone costs double what a Steam Machine costs.
I think you’re right. You can already get cheap mini PCs in the 300s with a 780M that has double the graphical power of a Steam Deck. I doubt Valve is going to double or triple that for $500.
Valve crushed it out of the park. Great hardware and really well presented; beautiful and succinct.
The pc is considerably underpowered. Definitely wouldn’t call it great hardware.
Yeah, well you know uhh, that’s just like my opinion, man. And without pricing it is hard to say if under or over powered. But I think it is thoughtfully designed. Looks like it is well-cooled, expandable storage, programmable light strip, and you can install whatever you want in it.
It’s underpowered. That’s not debatable. It’s also a full generation (or 2 depending on release date) behind in GPU architecture with it being only RDNA3. That has big implications, one being it is stuck on FSR3, which is crazy considering it will heavily rely on on FSR due to being so weak.
Having a programmable light strip doesn’t make it “thoughtfully designed” lol. Well cooled means nothing when it’s so under-specced.
It’s a low spec SFF PC. That’s cool, but let’s not pretend it’s amazing hardware. The best thing about it is its size tbh.
And how would you feel if it were $4?
$4? Did you mean $400?
No, I meant precisely what I wrote. The point being that if it were $4, “underpowered” would be an absurd way to describe it, because value is a function of cost versus benefit, where benefit is subjective.
Not really. This is made to play current games, and it’s underpowered for that no matter what the price is. It could still be great value while being underpowered.
Think about it like this - if you expect to play cyberpunk, would a $1 raspberry pi that can play it at 1fps be underpowered? It’s still great value at $1, but surely you can agree that for the job at hand it is underpowered?
Yes I agree, if we can move the goalposts where ever we want, you might have a point for your own narrow view. But there will be people that believe what it delivers to be suitable for playing the games they want to play, in which case it won’t be underpowered. Which means its status as underpowered… is debatable.
Agreed, but if it’s like $500, then it’ll make a nice addition to the living room for couch co-op games with the kids and possibly serve as a decent HTPC. 4K technically isn’t false advertising, but let’s be real, this is made for 1080p to be upscaled to 4K where most people won’t notice from the couch. Anyone who wants 4K on a monitor up close with 60 fps on ultra is not the target market and is instead looking for a PC where the GPU alone costs double what a Steam Machine costs.
This will be closer to USD$1k unfortunately.
I think you’re right. You can already get cheap mini PCs in the 300s with a 780M that has double the graphical power of a Steam Deck. I doubt Valve is going to double or triple that for $500.
Yep, and Valve have also said that it will be priced competitively with other similar gaming PCs.