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herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago

Almost 100,000 young men flee Ukraine in two months

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Almost 100,000 young men flee Ukraine in two months

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herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago
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    They currently have all of Donetsk and Luhansk, and are gradually encircling Kiev’s forces in the other 2 oblasts.

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      Such mad gains for over a million casualties

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        And Ukraine is stalling the inevitable, when all of this could have been avoided had peace talks not been sabotaged months into the war by the US and UK.

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          lol they weren’t sabotaged.

          Peace talks after being invaded saying give us your land and we will stop hitting you are not peace talks. It would spur them on to do the same to other nations around Ukraine.

          You really need to learn how to spot propaganda.

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            They were sabotaged. Ukraine was ready to make concessions, but the UK and US stepped in and said no. These were absolutely peace talks, as they would have ended the conflict.

            I know full-well how to spot propaganda, anything trying to convince someone of something is propaganda. Reading through bias and analyzing the source facts is necessary.

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              Ukraine absolutely was not. They were never going to let Russia just invade them and take land. That’s a fallacy.

              They may have done in 2014 under a pro-Russia government when they weren’t prepared but this time they were.

              There is zero evidence of the peace talks nor of Us and UK sabotaging them or telling them to not accept. That is disinformation.

              Russia has not sued for peace. Any time they have approached potential talks especially with the Orangutan, Russia have attacked harder both pre and post “negotiations”.

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                That’s a fallacy.

                Oh really? Which fallacy?

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                  All of it

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                    Lol. What are you even trying to say?

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                It isn’t disinformation, it’s proven fact. You can’t just say reality doesn’t exist and that Russia is going to turn around while they are winning, life is not a marvel movie.

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                  I didn’t say they would. I said they should.

                  What has a marvel movie got to do with anything? Superheroes aren’t real.

                  While we are posting links. Here. https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/us-and-boris-johnson-forced-ukraine-not-to-sign-the-peace-deal-in-istanbul/

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                    Russia isn’t going to do whatever you personally want them to, especially when they are on track to get all of their stated goals accomplished. “Should” doesn’t mean anything.

                    Further, more sources on the west sabotaging peace talks:

                    • https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/10/25/the-west-must-stop-blocking-negotiations-between-ukraine-and-russia/
                    • https://braveneweurope.com/michael-von-der-schulenburg-hajo-funke-harald-kujat-peace-for-ukraine
                    • https://mronline.org/2023/12/07/west-sabotaged-ukraine-peace-deal-with-russia-admit-zelensky-official-and-germanys-ex-leader/
                    • https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms
                    • https://media.mas.to/media_attachments/files/113/107/658/870/477/437/original/3a02f12a005a503b.mp4
                    • Nuland admitting stopping negotiations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS2dg_atfc

                    Linking a right-wing website trying to depict everything as kremlin propaganda doesn’t overtake the facts.

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