I mean you have signed a contract requiring you to be at work at 7.
The question is “Why should contracts specify the exact time?”
If you sign a contract with valid stipulations, of course you’re required to abide by it, but the subject of the conversation is this specific stipulation.
The claim is that “requiring you to be at work at 7” is an outdated norm.
Because it is much easier to make that sort of contract than measure some objective “work done” metric. Unless you’re hoping to be signing piecework/work by tender contracts all the time.
My employer mandates 40h of work per week and a core working time where all employees are supposed to be available. No fixed hours required. I don’t see how fixing hours is easier than that.
And ultimately, that is my point: Why set fixed times, if the time itself doesn’t actually matter?
That’s hardly a good reason to continue doing it. I consider it easiest to just let me work whenever I want to and stop worrying about how much.
If there’s no big consequence to starting a few minutes later, Employers shouldn’t be so anal about it. It’s a waste of everyone’s time and will probably cost more time and productivity than those few minutes I wasn’t gonna be super productive anyway.
I mean for the employer it’s a fine reason. If they didn’t get their way with that then they’d probably have to figure out a different system. But right now most workers have set hours
The question is “Why should contracts specify the exact time?”
If you sign a contract with valid stipulations, of course you’re required to abide by it, but the subject of the conversation is this specific stipulation.
The claim is that “requiring you to be at work at 7” is an outdated norm.
Because it is much easier to make that sort of contract than measure some objective “work done” metric. Unless you’re hoping to be signing piecework/work by tender contracts all the time.
My employer mandates 40h of work per week and a core working time where all employees are supposed to be available. No fixed hours required. I don’t see how fixing hours is easier than that.
And ultimately, that is my point: Why set fixed times, if the time itself doesn’t actually matter?
It can be that the employer just considers it easiest for them.
That’s hardly a good reason to continue doing it. I consider it easiest to just let me work whenever I want to and stop worrying about how much.
If there’s no big consequence to starting a few minutes later, Employers shouldn’t be so anal about it. It’s a waste of everyone’s time and will probably cost more time and productivity than those few minutes I wasn’t gonna be super productive anyway.
I mean for the employer it’s a fine reason. If they didn’t get their way with that then they’d probably have to figure out a different system. But right now most workers have set hours
And the whole thread is about workers not wanting it.
It’s sorta tough shit as long as you are under such contract. Then again, breaking it is one way to get out of it