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    With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power. The American fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact.

    Henry A. Wallace

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      Never believe that [fascists] are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The [fascists] have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

      Jean-Paul Sartre

      (replaced anti-Semite with fascist, as at this point we can see the two were the same)

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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    Weren’t the parties reversed at one point, where Republicans had the more left position and Democrats had the position of the right? 🤔

    I remember reading or seeing something about that a long time ago. IDK if it’s true, tho.

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      What you’re probably thinking of is the “southern Democrats” that flipped. Long story short they were considered the conservative party until the mid 20th century when the party leaders began passing civil rights laws. They flipped to the Republican party and here we are.

      Southern Democrats

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      Yeah, the Democrats came about ~25 years before the Republicans and they were staunch conservatives, and Republicans were the more “progressive/liberal” in U.S. terms.

      Democrats were from the south, and first Republican president was Lincoln and the whole ending slavery thing. Late 1800s Republicans stopped caring about civil rights as much, and when the great depression came about FDR ran as a Democrat that flipped the script and wanted more progressive policies. I’m sure there is a lot of give & take but that’s a quick way I would draw it up.

      (Always gives me a chuckle, because the whole south will rise again comments, and anti democrats are often coming from the same people… which were the same people at the time)

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        One thing to point to, is that republicans stopped caring so much after reconstruction when they tried to make inroads into the south.

        the question of civil rights, or being progressive were largely more a North vs South thing. Before the Southern Strategy, democrats had their stronghold in the south and reflected that. while the republicans- like Lincoln who was from Illinois- were based in the north.

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    All those libtard communists flying the stars and bars from the beds of their F-250 Super Duties and Ram 1500s

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    I remember at the age of 16 my older sister who at the time taught AP US Government trying to explain to me the difference between Political Party and Political Ideology and stupid me not quite getting it.

    By 20 I was heavily invested in politics and learning US history and I could easily understand how ideologies could flip party banners.

    Yet I speak, in real life, to Trump supporters up through their 60s and they cannot grasp this.