cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/37931397
Mitchell Plitnick
20 October 2025 09:18 BSTUS President Donald Trump is boasting of having brought peace to the Middle East, a claim that is wildly exaggerated. But he has, at least for the moment, brought an end to Israel’s genocide in Gaza.
Trump’s willingness to use the tools of his office to pressure Israel into accepting his terms for a ceasefire - terms quite favourable to Israel but falling short of the ambitions of its far-right government - reflects poorly on his predecessor, Joe Biden, and his 2024 presidential challenger, Kamala Harris.
It also vindicates the anti-Trump critics within the Democratic Party who implored their leaders to take a forceful stand against Israel’s genocide, warning they could lose the election if they refused.
Biden and trump demonstated both parties moral bankrupcy
What ceasefire?
Biden demonstrated the Democrats’ moral and political failure long before Trump snaked back onto the Whitehouse
You sound like a Trump supporter. Did you even read the article?
this thread is nonsense. Saying “hey look at the ‘leftist’ party, they can’t even beat the bigger evil on clear cut issues like Israel” isn’t the same as laying praise to the bigger evil, also “nobody is immune to propaganda”? what propaganda?
I think you confused me with another poster. I’m not the one who compared “leftists can’t win on issues like israel” to “laying praise to the bigger evil”. My take was “leftists shouldn’t praise trump for beating liberals on ANYTHING because that is itself a respectful act and he doesn’t deserve any. You can tear down liberals without praising Trump.”
When I said “don’t let the machine get to you” I meant “don’t let the propaganda machine trick you into thinking it’s acceptable to praise Trump”. Leftists may feel like they’re immune to it, but they’re not.
Acknowledging a Trump win (as measly as it is) isnt praise. who is respecting trump? what does respect even mean in this context, what is the propaganda here, the article doesn’t make him a good guy, the purpose is to dunk on libs and Trump needs to be a bad guy for his Israel slop to be a usable dunk, what makes you think the article is propagandising people into thinking its acceptable to praise trump?
Acknowledging a Trump win (as measly as it is) isnt praise.
I’m sorry but that’s wrong and I will die on that hill.
You’re correct that he did get a win, but I refuse to give him credit or show him any amount of respect. I will not allow it for myself. I would argue that when you credit him with a win you are giving him respect, and if we can’t agree on that then I’ll disconnect here.
Getting steamrolled by the West in a violent regime change but not acknowledging it because they are below credit? BASED! Manifest the downfall of the imperialist west with these numbers: 227937, 227937, 227937
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Ah I see you’ve chosen one of the three liberal thought-terminators: But Trump, But Russia, But China
I’m saying we shouldn’t be supportive of Trump because he condemns Liberals. I’m saying we should condemn Liberals without that qualifier. Please don’t let the machine get to you. We need you.
we shouldn’t be supportive of Trump
I’ll let you know next time I see one of these communists doing that
Please don’t let the machine get to you.
What does this mean
I’ll let you know next time I see one
No need. Did that already. I saw the guy above you crediting Trump with success, an inherently respectful act, which is why I wrote the comment. Feel free to review if you missed it.
What does this mean
No one is immune to propaganda.
Oh I see, you’ve got that tribal brain thing going where you think that accurately assessing the achievements of your enemy is “inherently respectful”. Materialists aren’t about that, which is why they keep winning wars.
accurately assessing the achievements of your enemy is inherently respectful
great talking to you
You sound like a Trump supporter. Did you even read the article?
This post is just the title of the article and the first 3 paragraphs. How could OP sound like a Trump supporter when you haven’t even read a single word of OP’s own opinion in this thread? Obviously Trump is terrible, the article goes on to cover that.
by OP do you mean Peter Link? He hasn’t posted any opinion in this thread, just quotes from the article author
Liberals on Reddit were explaining why Biden needed to continue the genocide to win. You could oppose both while still recognizing that Trump is worse than Biden albeit barely.
I’m saying we shouldn’t be supportive of Trump because he condemns Liberals. I’m saying we should condemn Liberals without that qualifier. Please don’t let the machine get to you. We need you.
