worldwide, cattle is. Together with humans, this adds up to about 95
So?
We’re not talking about what is the most consumed meat. Why would you being that up? Oh right, because you think there aren’t people who avoid industrially farmed meat, but aren’t actually vegan?
Your brother is making life more miserable for the remaining percentage who have a tough time holding on as
Lol whatever you’re smoking, I’d like some. You’re saying that my brother hunting deer is making your life more challenging? Honestly, are you on crack? Or did you just get so flustered by the answer?
Keeping the population in check is just an excuse that hunters use to justify their love for killing off animals.
I call you a moron, because you write things like that. You’re just plain wrong, and the worst part is that you know it, yet you keep trying to pretend like you don’t.
Often it takes a second or third shot for the final kill, letting the animal suffer in the mean time.
Shot many deer, have you? Rofl. First off, we started shooting when we were 12, and my brother never stopped. Going on 4-5 decades now for him. They always kill with the first shot, because it’s genuinely not that hard to hit the chest of a deer from 50-150 meters. Much easier than the target size on the test, for that exact purpose.
Because you don’t get a second shot at a deer, silly. Once the first one goes off, you won’t even have time to reload before they’re scattered off.
wyaah it’s jus an excuse wyaaaaah
Like I said, if no-one manages the deer, they will destroy the whole ecology.
Important habitats for many bird species ‘are in imminent danger of collapse,’ one expert warn
See what happens when you don’t manage them? And that’s in the US where you’ve got room for days. We’re talking about towns in Europe. So it’s not like it’s Yellowstone and you can just release wolves into the system, because they haven’t been around these parts for thousands of years. One vegan actually suggested that it’d somehow be better to actually do that. So he didn’t even care about killing the deer, he just wanted the deer to not be killed by people. Because we would choose being torn to bits by wolves while we’re still conscious instead of taking a bullet to the heart, right? Oh no, right, no-one would ever choose that, lol.
amount of available food is.
Yeah, because the amount of food available divided by population size equals what a single animal can potentially have. If it’s not enough, then you lower the number you’re dividing by, so that there’ll be more per animal. Because that’s how population control works.
They also feed the deer. It’s not just killing them. Otherwise it would be called “deer slaughter” and not “deer management”.
Deer you don’t have to get felling permits for, it’s so robust. But for elk/moose every hunting club gets a certain amount of felling permits based on the governments calculations for that year. So it’s a national animal managing effort, and it’s worked for us for thousands of years.
Thousands of years does matter, as ecologies can change vastly in a span of decades. For instance, if a place was a luscious wetland 100 years ago, it might not be now. And if you reintroduced beavers to a dessert, what do you think that would do? Fuck all because it’s not theie natural environment. Just like heavily populated towns in Europe are not a natural hunting habitat for a wolf.
Besides, human population density is only something of the last two centuries.
You’re thinking of North America, buddy. I’m talking central Europe. How would you manage the deer? Don’t kill them at all? Let the ecology be ruined for most of the species while there’s increased car crashes and farmers fields are producing jack shit because it’s all eaten by unmanaged wildlife.
But you do know that meat consumption requires more plants and associated animal harm than a vegan diet, right?
No. It doesn’t, unless you mean the type of meat consumption which is comprised of industrially farmed animals.
Me eating local vegetables grown here and getting my protein from hunted animals is way more sustainable and less harming than using global products like some B-vitamin supplements and avocados.
You can still have tasty meals without meat,
Who even implied you can’t? Who would think to put meat in everything? What are you even trying to say? It’s honestly so far from me that I can’t see it. Do you think that because I have meat in my diet, that I don’t have anything else? Your implications don’t even make sense unless you think I’m like an actual physical biological tiger who is managing to write on Lemmy. I’m not an obligate hyper carnivore. Humans are omnivores.
It is only for human pleasure.
See this is why people hate people like you. You’re not only wrong, you’re also preachy about being wrong.
Yoi won’t be able to admit that game meat is moral and that you can’t farm beans around the year when 9 months out of the year there’s minus temperatures outside.
So if I choose not to eat the deer, and instead by avocados and tropical fruits, I’m causing less harm? Never heard of a lil summat called “climate change”? Hmm? Pretty sure it’s causing quite a lot of dmg. But again, it’s so indirect that you don’t feel bad about it and that disconnect is enough for you. You just can’t see cause and effect I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Like I said, you can’t answer even simple questions with your ludicrous black-and-white ideology. You don’t even answer the second example about wool and sheep. So I assume you just realise that your ideology actually is straight up wrong or you’re admitting that you’re for actually genociding entire species. Yeah, run run, I know you’re unable to process any of this or question your views.
So?
We’re not talking about what is the most consumed meat. Why would you being that up? Oh right, because you think there aren’t people who avoid industrially farmed meat, but aren’t actually vegan?
Lol whatever you’re smoking, I’d like some. You’re saying that my brother hunting deer is making your life more challenging? Honestly, are you on crack? Or did you just get so flustered by the answer?
I call you a moron, because you write things like that. You’re just plain wrong, and the worst part is that you know it, yet you keep trying to pretend like you don’t.
Shot many deer, have you? Rofl. First off, we started shooting when we were 12, and my brother never stopped. Going on 4-5 decades now for him. They always kill with the first shot, because it’s genuinely not that hard to hit the chest of a deer from 50-150 meters. Much easier than the target size on the test, for that exact purpose.
Because you don’t get a second shot at a deer, silly. Once the first one goes off, you won’t even have time to reload before they’re scattered off.
Like I said, if no-one manages the deer, they will destroy the whole ecology.
https://www.audubon.org/magazine/surging-deer-populations-are-crisis-eastern-forests
See what happens when you don’t manage them? And that’s in the US where you’ve got room for days. We’re talking about towns in Europe. So it’s not like it’s Yellowstone and you can just release wolves into the system, because they haven’t been around these parts for thousands of years. One vegan actually suggested that it’d somehow be better to actually do that. So he didn’t even care about killing the deer, he just wanted the deer to not be killed by people. Because we would choose being torn to bits by wolves while we’re still conscious instead of taking a bullet to the heart, right? Oh no, right, no-one would ever choose that, lol.
Yeah, because the amount of food available divided by population size equals what a single animal can potentially have. If it’s not enough, then you lower the number you’re dividing by, so that there’ll be more per animal. Because that’s how population control works.
They also feed the deer. It’s not just killing them. Otherwise it would be called “deer slaughter” and not “deer management”.
Deer you don’t have to get felling permits for, it’s so robust. But for elk/moose every hunting club gets a certain amount of felling permits based on the governments calculations for that year. So it’s a national animal managing effort, and it’s worked for us for thousands of years.
Thousands of years does matter, as ecologies can change vastly in a span of decades. For instance, if a place was a luscious wetland 100 years ago, it might not be now. And if you reintroduced beavers to a dessert, what do you think that would do? Fuck all because it’s not theie natural environment. Just like heavily populated towns in Europe are not a natural hunting habitat for a wolf.
You’re thinking of North America, buddy. I’m talking central Europe. How would you manage the deer? Don’t kill them at all? Let the ecology be ruined for most of the species while there’s increased car crashes and farmers fields are producing jack shit because it’s all eaten by unmanaged wildlife.
No. It doesn’t, unless you mean the type of meat consumption which is comprised of industrially farmed animals.
Me eating local vegetables grown here and getting my protein from hunted animals is way more sustainable and less harming than using global products like some B-vitamin supplements and avocados.
Who even implied you can’t? Who would think to put meat in everything? What are you even trying to say? It’s honestly so far from me that I can’t see it. Do you think that because I have meat in my diet, that I don’t have anything else? Your implications don’t even make sense unless you think I’m like an actual physical biological tiger who is managing to write on Lemmy. I’m not an obligate hyper carnivore. Humans are omnivores.
See this is why people hate people like you. You’re not only wrong, you’re also preachy about being wrong.
Yoi won’t be able to admit that game meat is moral and that you can’t farm beans around the year when 9 months out of the year there’s minus temperatures outside.
So if I choose not to eat the deer, and instead by avocados and tropical fruits, I’m causing less harm? Never heard of a lil summat called “climate change”? Hmm? Pretty sure it’s causing quite a lot of dmg. But again, it’s so indirect that you don’t feel bad about it and that disconnect is enough for you. You just can’t see cause and effect I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Like I said, you can’t answer even simple questions with your ludicrous black-and-white ideology. You don’t even answer the second example about wool and sheep. So I assume you just realise that your ideology actually is straight up wrong or you’re admitting that you’re for actually genociding entire species. Yeah, run run, I know you’re unable to process any of this or question your views.