Yeah that is me 😢 it’s not a fun existence, bought my laptop when I still used windows and don’t have the money to get one without Nvidia GPU. It is working (right now), but I just got over having to nuke my install because trying to fix issues with it recently caused issues with other drivers for some reason.
When I bought my last laptop I specifically looked for alternatives to Nvidia. If you want a dGPU on a laptop, there’s almost nothing else than Nvidia.
There were like 4 laptops with AMD dGPU. All of them were priced about 2x what a comparable Nvidia laptop was priced and pretty much all of them have terrible ratings due to being made by Acer.
The only other option is Framework, and they want 3x what the Nvidia 4070 laptop cost that I ended up getting.
i spent waaaaaay more time fiddling around with drivers on windows than on linux.
in fact, it’s exactly infinitely more, because I’ve spent exactly ZERO seconds on any drivers on linux since switching to bazzite last year.
the amount of driver bullshit, the bullshit permissions shenanigans for modding, and just all around bullshit i had to deal with under windows has just, *poof!*, evaporated under linux!
shit actually just does exactly what you tell it to do!
no weird black magic running in the background that nobody’s entirely sure about how it works, no bullshit UAC child controls, no bullshit updates and anti-features you don’t want and never agreed to, no bullshit up-sells, no ads!
it’s fucking magical compared to windows! <3
P.S.:
although, i do use an AMD gpu…
…BUT i did recently plug a 3080 i got for cheap into my weekend rig at my parents’ place and that also just worked without any configuration required sooo…maybe bazzite is just better about Nvidia drivers than most distros? who knows, who cares, it just works!
edit: also: modding games, mostly. plenty of tinkering around that needs a bunch of programs windows doesn’t like for various reasons. simple things like windows automatically inheriting permissions onto a drive that shouldn’t inherit any (and hasn’t actually inherited any at root level, so where the fuck did it get even get those from??), randomly changing access for nebulous reasons… there’s just sooo much nonsense to deal with under windows that i haven’t encountered even once under linux.
sure, I’ve had permissions issues, but at least those where my own fault! and fixing them was easy, transparent, and never reverted again for no reason.
i honestly no longer care to find out why windows was misbehaving (wasn’t malware, of that I’m sure. kept happening even on entirely new hardware), because I’ve just left that mess behind, and I’m never going back.
Yeah I’ll give you that for the life of me I don’t understand why exFAT drives seem to trip over permission issues and in such stupid ways. I don’t seem to have anywhere that same problem with ext4.
Like what is a person supposed to do with that? More partitions? While linux does have permission issues of its own I haven’t really run into a problem I can’t fix easily with one command line.
Can anyone share the state of modern Nvidia cards on linux nowadays? I was looking into building a more modern gaming/rendering rig and AMD GPUs are way more expensive than Nvidia here. Reddit provides contradictory information.
Ideally I’m interested in how well the 5000 series works on Wayland setups in normal distros like debian.
In general, mine work fine. Sometimes Linux won’t switch between my CPU and GPU for graphical rendering when I start a game. Seems to be sporadic and changes whenever I update Linux. In general, I just force the GPU to render all graphics as a workaround, but that wouldn’t do well for the battery on a laptop. I also think it’s something my distro doesn’t handle well, but others do better.
I am able to get mine running on Kubuntu. I have a Lenovo legion s7 slim laptop with a mobile 3060 GPU. I would not choose Nvidia if I could (can’t afford to replace my laptop), but it is possible in theory to get them working, just finicky. From my understanding it has become a lot better in recent history though. Nvidia says the latest drivers (I think the version is like 580) is compatible with pretty much all modern Nividia GPUs (so like 3xxx series and up).
Nope. Had my games constantly crash my PC after an update. Had to ddu the whole thing and go back to a known working driver from a month ago. Not updating that shit anymore unless strictly required
it is probably me only ever using igpus but the linux graphics stack never broke on me, always worked flawless.
nvidia users in the other hand, have the opposite experience
Linux update is more like… “uh oh, please don’t break anything, I just got my graphics drivers working last week.”
This take is based on a true story.
Says the NVidia user.
Yeah that is me 😢 it’s not a fun existence, bought my laptop when I still used windows and don’t have the money to get one without Nvidia GPU. It is working (right now), but I just got over having to nuke my install because trying to fix issues with it recently caused issues with other drivers for some reason.
When I bought my last laptop I specifically looked for alternatives to Nvidia. If you want a dGPU on a laptop, there’s almost nothing else than Nvidia.
There were like 4 laptops with AMD dGPU. All of them were priced about 2x what a comparable Nvidia laptop was priced and pretty much all of them have terrible ratings due to being made by Acer.
The only other option is Framework, and they want 3x what the Nvidia 4070 laptop cost that I ended up getting.
Meanwhile in windows: doo doo doo… continues to game…
i spent waaaaaay more time fiddling around with drivers on windows than on linux.
in fact, it’s exactly infinitely more, because I’ve spent exactly ZERO seconds on any drivers on linux since switching to bazzite last year.
the amount of driver bullshit, the bullshit permissions shenanigans for modding, and just all around bullshit i had to deal with under windows has just, *poof!*, evaporated under linux!
shit actually just does exactly what you tell it to do!
no weird black magic running in the background that nobody’s entirely sure about how it works, no bullshit UAC child controls, no bullshit updates and anti-features you don’t want and never agreed to, no bullshit up-sells, no ads!
it’s fucking magical compared to windows! <3
P.S.:
although, i do use an AMD gpu…
…BUT i did recently plug a 3080 i got for cheap into my weekend rig at my parents’ place and that also just worked without any configuration required sooo…maybe bazzite is just better about Nvidia drivers than most distros? who knows, who cares, it just works!
Driver permissions ……in windows? What on are you talking about?
I use both Linux and windows. I’m confused what it is you’re doing exactly to have so many issues.
it’s a list, hence the comma separation.
this is standard grammar.
edit: also: modding games, mostly. plenty of tinkering around that needs a bunch of programs windows doesn’t like for various reasons. simple things like windows automatically inheriting permissions onto a drive that shouldn’t inherit any (and hasn’t actually inherited any at root level, so where the fuck did it get even get those from??), randomly changing access for nebulous reasons… there’s just sooo much nonsense to deal with under windows that i haven’t encountered even once under linux.
sure, I’ve had permissions issues, but at least those where my own fault! and fixing them was easy, transparent, and never reverted again for no reason.
i honestly no longer care to find out why windows was misbehaving (wasn’t malware, of that I’m sure. kept happening even on entirely new hardware), because I’ve just left that mess behind, and I’m never going back.
way, way better this way!
Yeah I’ll give you that for the life of me I don’t understand why exFAT drives seem to trip over permission issues and in such stupid ways. I don’t seem to have anywhere that same problem with ext4.
Like what is a person supposed to do with that? More partitions? While linux does have permission issues of its own I haven’t really run into a problem I can’t fix easily with one command line.
this is exactly it!
linux does have some issues, but it’s almost always a simple fix, and damn near never the OS’ fault.
so much better!
at least i only get mad at myself, which is much easier to deal with…
Can anyone share the state of modern Nvidia cards on linux nowadays? I was looking into building a more modern gaming/rendering rig and AMD GPUs are way more expensive than Nvidia here. Reddit provides contradictory information.
Ideally I’m interested in how well the 5000 series works on Wayland setups in normal distros like debian.
In general, mine work fine. Sometimes Linux won’t switch between my CPU and GPU for graphical rendering when I start a game. Seems to be sporadic and changes whenever I update Linux. In general, I just force the GPU to render all graphics as a workaround, but that wouldn’t do well for the battery on a laptop. I also think it’s something my distro doesn’t handle well, but others do better.
I am able to get mine running on Kubuntu. I have a Lenovo legion s7 slim laptop with a mobile 3060 GPU. I would not choose Nvidia if I could (can’t afford to replace my laptop), but it is possible in theory to get them working, just finicky. From my understanding it has become a lot better in recent history though. Nvidia says the latest drivers (I think the version is like 580) is compatible with pretty much all modern Nividia GPUs (so like 3xxx series and up).
That is the same with nvidia drivers on windows nowadays. They keep pushing updates that just break shit.
Ok so I’m not alone. I’m currently watching my Ubuntu burn to the ground :(
Nope. Had my games constantly crash my PC after an update. Had to ddu the whole thing and go back to a known working driver from a month ago. Not updating that shit anymore unless strictly required
When I got the latest kernel on my Arch laptop, the touchpad didn’t work for a month (luckily it was fixed by installing the LTS kernel)
But I like to stay on the bleeding edge, otherwise I would have chosen Debian
That’s true for any update though.
it is probably me only ever using igpus but the linux graphics stack never broke on me, always worked flawless. nvidia users in the other hand, have the opposite experience
Isn’t it more like “I haven’t updated in a while, let’s see what’s new”?
Then I hope it doesn’t break stuff.
To quote Marco Pierre White “Its your choice.”