• Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Yes, that stuff is very important Mom, now me and the boys gotta push back some traveling renegades that want to pillage our stores and goods. With our gun. And because we have so many really good guns, we will win. Store arms is essential dooms day prepping

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      7 hours ago

      People hated you because you spoke the truth. You need all the things to survive. Everything OP listed AND a way for the community to see to it’s own defense. Which in the 21rst century means either guns, bows, or directed energy weapons.

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      2 days ago

      After a few years the guns will be useless and without resources. Long term survival does not revolve around stock piling unsustainable weapons or once-off use food supplies.

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        2 days ago

        After a few years the guns will be useless and without resources

        Lol I own guns that are older than your grandpa. I also reload my own ammo. None of this stuff has a shelf life.

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          2 days ago

          Oh, that’s really cool. So how do you get the minerals for the explosives and the raw metal for the bullets?

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            6 hours ago

            You say that like people didn’t used to make gun powder from decomposting straw and lead can be mined.

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            2 days ago

            By robbing other people’s bunkers obviously /s.

            The point isn’t to sustainably be able to make ammunition for the next 10 generations. It’s to be able to hunt and protect my farm from predators and bandits. If shit ever really hits the fan having a bunker full of beans isn’t going to save you. But knowing how to live off the land and having the means to do so may very well be the difference between life and starving to death. If all of the sudden tomorrow the supermarket did not have food what would you do? Try to go to TikTok and find survival lifehacks? Me personally I would go out to my chicken coop and gather some eggs. Then make my way to the garden to pick some vegetables (if it’s winter, I should have canned vegetables). After that I would probably go milk my goats (I don’t have goats yet, hopefully next year though lol.) finally I would probably make a loop around the area to check on my neighbors and see if they need anything, maybe trade them some eggs, while also looking for game to hunt.

            Not everyone who does this type of shit is some whiny bunker baby who’s waiting to live out their mad max fantasy. I’m not a doomsday prepper, I’m a homesteader.

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              2 days ago

              So you’re very much not the stockpiling only guns and beans type of person, so why are you feeling so called out?

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      With our gun. And because we have so many really good guns

      Literally all our violence problems in the USA stem from this kind of massive insecurity and self-reaffirmation. The guns are a product of this kind of feeling of isolationism and fear, not a cause.

      How do you know if someone is a conservative white american? They will start babbling about firearms almost instantly when you talk about the possibility of destabilization.

      How do you know if someone is one of the many millions of liberal or leftist firearm owners? You won’t. They don’t feel need to whip it out and stroke it in front of strangers. The Finnish are laughing at you.

      The post here is both right and wrong. You do need guns to survive in a post-collapse situation, but vast, vast majority of gun-toting americans would either not survive or become the worst kinds of raiders and bandits themselves because they don’t create community or sustainable systems in that community to keep people alive, and tend to ignore the importance of countless other facets of actual survival.