I had a flipped conversation. Working IT, late at a client’s office, the secretary (we knew each other well enough) stated that without the Bible we couldn’t know right from wrong.

“Um, I don’t need religion to tell me rape and murder is wrong. Do you? I mean, think on that, did you have to be told?”

I’m sure I got a bit of that wrong, but that was the gist of it, and it was that short. She sat back in her chair and stared at me a minute. One of those oh-so-rare times in life when you hit someone with a brand new thought. Love to see it, love to experience it!