I think you forget about the whole scene where Luke empathizes with his father at the end where he’s about to die. Not to mention the entire of the prequels where it shows how Anakin was a good dude who had suffered so much, and that’s what eventually drew him to “the dark side”.
The whole fucking argument is that you don’t need relatable villains for a good movie.
Acknowledging that woobifying Vader happened later isn’t pedantic, it is the point.
You don’t have to empathize with Palpatine. He’s a manipulative dictator. You don’t have to empathize with Tarkin. You don’t really need to empathize with any of the generals Vader chokes in the original trilogy. You are not expected to wonder about the inner life and emotional state of the bounty hunters who must be told, “no disintegrations.”
It is fine for a movie to have bad guys who are just fucking bad guys. Sometimes - that’s how it is in real life.
Not even if you do it again about this comment. Can you imagine what it would be like if you’re just plain wrong about my internal state? Like maybe steering the conversation back to the other guy’s chosen topic isn’t right-or-wrong based on some numbers above each comment?
Disagree. Some antagonists are bastards, and you can obviously make a good movie where people oppose them.
The bad guys in Star Wars are Nazis. “You do not, under any circumstances, ‘gotta hand it to them.’”
I think you forget about the whole scene where Luke empathizes with his father at the end where he’s about to die. Not to mention the entire of the prequels where it shows how Anakin was a good dude who had suffered so much, and that’s what eventually drew him to “the dark side”.
The question stands. Was A New Hope not a good movie, when absolutely nothing was done to empathize with the bad guys?
So the original movie wasn’t good?
While the original movie was called Star Wars, many people refer to the series of movies as Star Wars.
Being pedantic isnt gonna help your argument here.
The whole fucking argument is that you don’t need relatable villains for a good movie.
Acknowledging that woobifying Vader happened later isn’t pedantic, it is the point.
You don’t have to empathize with Palpatine. He’s a manipulative dictator. You don’t have to empathize with Tarkin. You don’t really need to empathize with any of the generals Vader chokes in the original trilogy. You are not expected to wonder about the inner life and emotional state of the bounty hunters who must be told, “no disintegrations.”
It is fine for a movie to have bad guys who are just fucking bad guys. Sometimes - that’s how it is in real life.
You completely miss the point of my comment.
Im sure you feel liberated by the upvotes.
Further sneering projection won’t help anyone.
Not even if you do it again about this comment. Can you imagine what it would be like if you’re just plain wrong about my internal state? Like maybe steering the conversation back to the other guy’s chosen topic isn’t right-or-wrong based on some numbers above each comment?