• Quittenbrot@feddit.org
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    15 hours ago

    That’s not what I observed

    So you don’t think there is (forced) cultural assimilation in China?

    instead I saw the government funding mosques and cultural centers and promoting minority cultures.

    Yea, there are some that look like yours, some look like this:

    Obviously, most, especially tourist, will only be allowed to see your example.

    Nearly all of the party works normal jobs, including the members who get elected to go to Congresses.

    You don’t think there is a caste of elite politicians running the country, as established itself in the Soviet Union and its bloc, and instead the average Chinese worker is actually in control of these politicians?

    I’d like to see a Chinese migrant worker telling Xi that he’s wrong. Should be possible since the worker is actually in control and Xi only the executing tool, right? That Xi abolished the limitations on being reelected in 2018, something China deliberately nested into its state framework to prevent a single person to accumulate too much power and become corrupted by that power, as is nature of any human, and since then holds the state in an ever tighter personal grip, can be seen with cautious scepticism.

    The US literally had to interfere in the elections in the 90s to prevent the communists from being reelected.

    In the former Warsaw Pact? Where?

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      14 hours ago

      So you don’t think there is (forced) cultural assimilation in China?

      I am not aware of any, how do you believe China forces cultures to assimilate? Maybe I’m not recognizing it because I’m looking for ways America and European countries are currently doing so, for example they don’t ban their languages in schools, I see obvious capital investment in their communities, their traditions aren’t only merely tolerated, they have the government supporting them.

      Yea, there are some that look like yours, some look like this:

      I can’t see what you’re linking, I think feddit is down or doesn’t like talking to vietnamese ISPs.

      You don’t think there is a caste of elite politicians running the country, as established itself in the Soviet Union and its bloc, and instead the average Chinese worker is actually in control of these politicians?

      Yes and no, the actions of the government tell me it’s more democratic than literally any bourgeois democracy, since when’s the last time a western country executed a billionaire (Epstein doesn’t count), but some people I’ve spoken to believe the government is incompetent/corrupt/lazy. Sometimes it’s just the local government they have issues with, other times it’s the federal government, other times they don’t differentiate.

      I’d like to see a Chinese migrant worker telling Xi that he’s wrong.

      Remember the covid protests? What is that except a bunch of chinese telling the government it’s wrong? (even if the only thing the government did wrong was not cracking down on Shanghai after it’s lack of adherence caused the 20th outbreak in the rest of China)

      In the former Warsaw Pact? Where?

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        13 hours ago

        I am not aware of any, how do you believe China forces cultures to assimilate?

        By destroying most of the 6,000 monasteries in Tibet. Today, there are less than ten intact. By imprisoning hundred of thousands or even more than a million Uyghurs in “re-education camps” without courts or rule of law. By controlling every little detail of all its citizens, especially those from other cultures, so every aspect in the life of one of those minorities is controlled and approved by the Han central government. By having a de-facto Han caste of elite rulers, keeping minorities in check and from power. Doesn’t sound very equal to me.

        I can’t see what you’re linking, I think feddit is down or doesn’t like talking to vietnamese ISPs.

        Let’s see if you may see any of that:

        https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/54/Xinjiang_Re-education_Camp_Lop_County.jpg

        https://news.files.bbci.co.uk/include/shorthand/42264/media/02_china_2018_v4_2560_x_1440-mr_hauqhha.jpg

        the actions of the government tell me it’s more democratic than literally any bourgeois democracy, since when’s the last time a western country executed a billionaire (Epstein doesn’t count)

        Do you think actual control by the working class is shown by billionaires being executed? Besides: our rule of law forbids us from executing even those that fall out of favour, while totalitarian states have absolutely no problems with their elites amassing a lot of wealth as long as they keep in line. The problem with the then executed hence wasn’t that they were billionaires, but rather that they did something the ruling clique did no longer agree with, or even merely personal reasons. You find similar mechanisms in any mafia-like organisation. Doesn’t make those an epitome of working class rule, either. On the contrary, the few powerful at the top decide for the rest. We in our system at least have the opportunity to vote those people in and out.

        Remember the covid protests? What is that except a bunch of chinese telling the government it’s wrong?

        Yea, and I clearly remember the central government facing the people and admitting that they did a mistake and asking for apology… oh wait. Or did they increase their grip even further and only upped the suppression of the people to get them back in line?

        The story about Yeltsin, as can be read in the magazine you provided the cover of, wasn’t “the US interfering”, but Yeltsin’s daughter, who he only trusted, asking a couple of political advisors from the US for help as she didn’t have the experience needed.