• Ooops@feddit.org
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    No, they don’t.

    They are begging for strict guide lines to have some security in their planning for years. They are massively upscaling EV production. They stopped CE development years ago with the latest engines developed already on the streets for years. They have invested billions into EV production.

    This is pure astroturfing. Fossil fuel producers (with the help of their paid stooges in politics and media) are telling a fairy tale of how car producers fight EVs because the tech/the infrastructure/whatever isn’t ready yet… all in the hope enough morons believe it so they can delay the actual development some more.

    And given our wonderful new post-factual era and how people are eating up the lie and start ranting about those car producers it seems to be working as usual… If enough people fall for it and falsely believe that there are no proper EVs to chose from (sidenote: a lot of car dealers with repair workshops included are helping to spread that lie) they might be able to delay everythinhg for a few more years, or so they believe.

    (For reference: here’s an article about all the new models presented on this year’s IAA and completely unsurprisingly there is exactly one CE/hybrid in the whole list… the latest Renault Clio iteration.)

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      No, they don’t.

      Are you sure? Genuine question. This is talking about “car industry” and while I agree with you that the manufacturers have been emphasising the need for clear guidelines for security in planning, I also think that the attached automotive supplier ecosystem we currently have in Germany would have difficulties to continue in this scale in a fully EV-converted automotive industry. So someone like Söder wants ICEs back in order for the industry to continue as always.

      E, for clarification: …which is doomed to fail, obviously

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        Oh, if you include the complete supply chain in the “car industry” there are surely some people who want to desperately stick with combustion engines for lack of another perspective.

        But those don’t justify the massive amount of political and media coverage that always pretends (quite explicitly even) that it’s the big producers (thus employers) speaking and not some small “we produce a few parts for the manual transmission exclusively” - or “we are the leading supplier for fuel pumps”-companies that are complaining.

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          Given the last ICE German Car I bought (BMW) caught fire after 2 years while I was driving it and their only answer has been “shit happens, fuck you”, I’d say it’s only good if they get fucked by the market moving to EVs and maybe learn to put their customers at the center of their strategy again instead of focusing purely on getting as much public funds as possibile to keep producing shit

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      And then they want government money because they failed (or were not willing to be to more precise) to adapt.

      So they’re more like slamming citizens nuts.

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        And then they want government our money because they failed

        Fixed that for you. Let’s always call a spade a spade.

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    Can’t decide if 2035 end of commodity access to personal transportation is good or bad.

    Probably bad for 80% people currently alive, marginally better at best for future generations…?

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      end of commodity access to personal transportation

      Lmao. But fits in nicely between 5G nanochips in the vaccine and The Great Replacement.