• PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social
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    15 hours ago

    Too many people on the left don’t want illegal immigration. I don’t want illegal immigration. But, I really am disgusted with how it’s being handled now (and in the past too).

    Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

    I personally don’t care about “illegal immigration.” I’ve had good friends who came here “illegally,” and ones who’ve experienced some extremely severe consequences because of it. Fuck that. But even regardless of all that, what ICE is currently doing has absolutely 0 to do with enforcing immigration law. They’re actually breaking immigration law left and right and violating a bunch of different court orders. If you care about “legal vs illegal,” which again in this case I couldn’t possibly give less of a fuck about, you should be extremely upset against ICE right now, and agitating to stop them.

    Now, I don’t mean we should all go shoot people

    Good, glad we agree on that part.

    but those politicians and “influencers” promoting hate and fascism need to feel deep down that they are truly unsafe.

    I don’t necessarily disagree. But, there is a way to do that that can escalate into a real revolution of the people that will still maintain a working country. There is also a way to do it that can escalate into AOC and Bernie being the first up on the assassination list, along with Hasanabi, Paul Pelosi, the local mayor if he tries to put in bike lanes, fuckin’ whatever.

    This particular way of “fighting” for improvement is guaranteed to make things worse.

    We need to make them stop—with escalating intensity that stops when they stop.

    This part, I completely agree with. Is your impression that shooting Charlie Kirk will make them stop? I think it will make them accelerate. There is no number of Charlie Kirks that you can shoot that will ever make them stop.

    They have a lot more money for security than Elizabeth Warren does. There is one side and one side only that will be disproportionately impacted by this.

    • whiwake@lemmy.cafe
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      15 hours ago

      So what you’re saying is nothing will make them stop.

      Well………… #10 it is. Sorry. 🤷‍♂️don’t care.