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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/35098148
At least 25 countries have decided to suspend package deliveries to the United States, as concern grows over the impact of U.S. President Donald Trump’s looming tariffs, a UN body said Tuesday.
The Trump administration said late last month that it will abolish a tax exemption on small packages entering the United States from August 29.
The move has sparked a flurry of announcements from postal services, including in France, Britain, Germany, Italy, India, Australia and Japan, that most U.S.-bound packages would no longer be accepted.
The United Nations’ Universal Postal Union said it had already been advised by 25 member countries that their postal operators “have suspended their outbound postal services to the U.S., citing uncertainties specifically related to transit services”.
It said the suspensions will remain in place until there is more clarity on how U.S. authorities plan to implement the announced measures.
The UPU did not provide a list of postal services it had heard from.
Trump is why America can’t have nice things
The root cause is a profound anti-intellectual bent.
Fascist bents, I’d say.
Knowing the definition of “fascist” is too intellectual for 90% of America.
Europe has much more past and current expirence with fascism than Americans so it’s understandable
The US has been a fascist nation for a long time.
I’m all for anarchy but then those with the bigger guns win and the US government has the bigger guns. 😂
Maybe the nordic countries come the closest but I’ll wait to see how electronic privacy (chat control) unfolds
Americans are why Americans can’t have nice things.
Good.
his obssesion with tariffs is one of his identities.
Tariffs and underage girls
Ya know, I just had a $100 part shipped to me from the US to French Polynesia through a broker I paid. Package is delivered by DHL and customs sits on it for 10 days. Then they charge me a “tax” equal to 100% and they included the shipping price I paid in the calculation.
If it’s okay for other countries to charge this BS, the US should be able to as well.
Oh, and don’t even think about over staying your visa in FP!
Things have gotten so bad that we’re having to find tiny island clusters in the South Pacific to compare the US to in order to make their import logistics seem reasonable.
I don’t even disagree that there’s plenty of other countries that make importing a pain, but the free market was supposed to be the US’s whole thing. Like, the US can’t even America properly any more.
Its not just tiny countries. This is common most places. Travel and import things and report back.
A one-way free market isn’t good for the US.
If you’re going to be condescending, at least check your facts first. De minimis import exceptions are extremely common, especially in developed countries (including the whole EU, Japan, Australia, NZ to name a few): https://zonos.com/docs/guides/de-minimis-values
EU de minimis does not apply to US imports. Japan is about $70, Australian non resident businesses over $75k of sales need to register and pay GST (10%) regardless of the de minimis, for NZ, the threshold is about $30k and the GST is 15%
Facts.
Yes, all of which mean that you can send stuff of low value in the regular postal system to those countries.
You seem to be arguing the whole thing from a trade deficit position or a Trumpist “waaaah, it’s not fair how we’re importing so much stuff”, when that’s not what the story is about at all. Several other posters have already explained this to you.
My argument is to remove your self imposed limit of “regular postal system” and this is a non issue. You as a business absolutely can send packages to US customers. The costs have gone up but you can still ship.
You seem to be arguing from a point of orange man is bad and trade should be free (except for US businesses).
All countries should remove all barriers to trade!
I never voted for Trump and have never in my life voted Republican. I do have a history as a business owner dealing with unfair trade practices from other countries though.
Which is a weird thing to repeatedly argue in the thread of a story about the regular postal system.
Now you’re just inventing things in your own imagination. Neither I nor anyone else in this thread has suggested that the US doesn’t have the right to modify its own tariffs, and yet you keep imagining that we are in order to keep fuelling whatever it is you’re trying to push. I’m sorry you had difficulty with your own little importing issue, but you’ve picked the wrong thread to grind your axe about it.
That’s because other countries have the systems in place to handle the additional charges, but the US suddenly demands money for a package but doesn’t have the systems in place to handle anything for this. No paperwork, no procedures, no amounts list, no account number. At this point all other countries are just waiting for the US to gets it shit sorted out so they can actually pay.
DHL, FedEx, UPS. They are still shipping
There the recipient apparently pays, but the formal recipient is a company in US. In other countries, it works so that when you’re getting a package, you are asked to pay the tariffs, and once that’s done, they receive the package.
But USA now refuses this (except if it’s DHL, FedEx or UPS, which is a funny ruling), so instead, the country sending the shipment must collect the money and relay it to USA. But, USA refuses to tell them how much money they should be collecting, and it refuses to tell them where to send the money to. Big guys at DHL, FedEx and UPS probably know some specific people in the White House who have made this work out for them, but not all postal companies on this planet know people in the White House.
This is BS, FedEx, DHL, and UPS collect duties for other countries just like they do for the US tariffs
Absolutely they do. But not all countries have systems in place for collecting the money in the sending country. I’ve had to pay customs duties for thing’s I’ve received in Finland, so clearly they were not paid in the sending country.
But it’s also irrelevant that they they collect duties. Others would like to do the same, there just is no way to do it, for now. Later there probably will be, and then the deliveries will be continued.
And will you continue to do that for the next item? No. And if you can’t find a local supplier, you’ll stop doing that business. It hurts the economy. And this is what will happen in the U.S.
Seems unlikely it will hurt much.
Also, what I did the next time was purchase a RT ticket to LA from Tahiti purchased the part and returned with it. This was less expensive than paying the import duties and when I declared it at customs, they said I owed nothing.
Nazi Germany gassed people in death camps. Therefore everyone should do the same thing.
(Please tell me how this logic is any different than yours?)
My dude, this is technically correct but a bad metaphor; there’s a lot of important differences between death camps and postal bans that make the comparison absurd.
What a dumb comparison. So many haters of anything US here. Yet, more people want to live here than anywhere else. 😂
Try illegally moving to any other country, try importing duty free anywhere else.
There is a limit under which the shipment is duty-free. Been there, done that. The declartion takes some 10-ish minutes of time. And there’s a system in place for that.
But, here the problem is that USA refuses to accept the money from any other organizations than UPS, FedEx and DHL, which apparently have some kind of back channel they can use. If I import something from China to Finland, I get a message telling me I’ll need to pay up. It then asks for the value of the shipment and the type of the goods and spits out the sum I must pay. Once I’ve paid up, the shipment will continue.
But the US demand is that exclusively the sender pays the money. And the US has no system in place for receiving such payments, so there is no way of paying them. For now.
Again, DHL, FedEx, and UPS all can accept the payment. Just like they do for taxes and duties in other countries.
As already said numerous times in this conversation.
And also, them being able to accept the payment does nothing to help the companies why aren’t, because they are not allowed to use the systems that tell how much they should pay, nor is there anything to receive those payments in the US end.
DHL, FedEx and UPS have some kind of bilateral agreements – official or unofficial, hard to say. Good for them.