That’s a bad comparison tbh. Bluetooth audio isn’t a superior technology over wired audio (in many ways it’s inferior). The two have always been included together with no issue until one company decided to drop one of them in order to more easily sell more expensive and less durable stuff. Other companies followed like sheep.
A data rate of 352kbps for aptX and 576kbps for aptX HD is hardly cd quality.
Those are compressed bitrates of the full 1.4mbps of a cd. Aptx hd is near lossless. You’d have to be a serious audiophile to notice the difference. Which case, are you going to be listening from your phone with its shitty DAC?
You’d have to be a serious audiophile to notice the difference
Sure, I didn’t say otherwise. It’s enough for most people. A compressed bitrate is just not lossless. But again, for use with Spotify, which most do and isn’t more than 320kbps, it’s plenty.
But that doesn’t negate that it’s still not better than wired.
your phone with its shitty DAC?
Totally depends on your phone, just like your BT headphones/earbuds. Not all phones have shitty DACs.
You drew a comparison between tape and cd, one of which is clearly superior. That’s just not the case between wired and BT. Both can be together in one device.
You drew a comparison between tape and cd, one of which is clearly superior. That’s just not the case between wired and BT. Both can be together in one device.
Quality wise, tape can be pretty close to CD. But most tape decks were shit. CDs were largely adopted because of convenience, not their audio quality. The majority of people only care about convenience.
That’s just not the case between wired and BT. Both can be together in one device.
Expensive tapes can come close to CDs, but generally tapes are noisier (outside of just the tapedeck), have a worse dynamic range and frequency response and they degrade over time. And indeed it’s not all about sound quality. CDs are more convenient in quite a few ways while not really sacrificing quality and affordability and that does help a lot.
The only convenience BT adds is not having wires, which is valid, but that’s about it. In case of headphones and earbuds, BT also has inconveniences like batteries, BT pairing bs, more latency, worse mics and generally being way more expensive than a decent pair of wired earbuds.
With added cost for a feature few use.
Barely any cost, if any noticable cost at all. Phones are more expensive than ever. A headphone jack is not going to make much difference compared to the price increase of decent BT headphones/earbuds.
And the reason few use it anymore is because everyone was forced to move to BT (or a dongle, which also sucks) due to phones almost collectively dropping the jack.
Hardly. The quality is worse than the mp3s I downloaded from the pirate bay back in the day. Aptx hd is better but fairly uncommon. Sbc in high bitrate wounds fairly good but I’ve only come across it on linux with pipewire.
When CDs started taking place of cassettes, most vehicles had BOTH tapedecks and CD players. They didn’t immediately ditch the old shit. They actually compromised.
Since this is obviously impractical, do you suggest buying a new car to fit the phone, then?
You came to the point of absurdity. If the car runs, and phones easily supported it through a technology that stays highly relevant and widely used, then why is it changed?
It’s not that 3,5mm jack is outdated by any means.
Obviously missing the point. Technology changes. 20 years ago, cars replaced tape decks with cds. 40 years ago they were replacing 8 tracks for cassettes. New cars dont even include any media other than bluetooth and fm radio. 3.5mm may still be ‘useful’ but the fwct of the matter, the majority of users wont even notice its absence.
Sadly, they made it outdated. And it was surprisingly easy to convince people of that fact.
They said to people “we’re taking away functionality from you, but it’s a good thing, as now we can sell you the new stuff and you won’t have a choice - make sure to argue with people that don’t agree,” and most people obeyed for whatever reason.
This is the same enegry as complaining about a new car not being able to play your old tapes.
That’s a bad comparison tbh. Bluetooth audio isn’t a superior technology over wired audio (in many ways it’s inferior). The two have always been included together with no issue until one company decided to drop one of them in order to more easily sell more expensive and less durable stuff. Other companies followed like sheep.
With aptx codec, its nearly the same as cd quality without the hassle of cds.
A data rate of 352kbps for aptX and 576kbps for aptX HD is hardly cd quality. It’s plenty for Spotify of course.
I’m not against BT headphones, but you don’t need to remove the headphone jack for it.
Those are compressed bitrates of the full 1.4mbps of a cd. Aptx hd is near lossless. You’d have to be a serious audiophile to notice the difference. Which case, are you going to be listening from your phone with its shitty DAC?
Sure, I didn’t say otherwise. It’s enough for most people. A compressed bitrate is just not lossless. But again, for use with Spotify, which most do and isn’t more than 320kbps, it’s plenty. But that doesn’t negate that it’s still not better than wired.
Totally depends on your phone, just like your BT headphones/earbuds. Not all phones have shitty DACs.
You drew a comparison between tape and cd, one of which is clearly superior. That’s just not the case between wired and BT. Both can be together in one device.
Quality wise, tape can be pretty close to CD. But most tape decks were shit. CDs were largely adopted because of convenience, not their audio quality. The majority of people only care about convenience.
With added cost for a feature few use.
Expensive tapes can come close to CDs, but generally tapes are noisier (outside of just the tapedeck), have a worse dynamic range and frequency response and they degrade over time. And indeed it’s not all about sound quality. CDs are more convenient in quite a few ways while not really sacrificing quality and affordability and that does help a lot.
The only convenience BT adds is not having wires, which is valid, but that’s about it. In case of headphones and earbuds, BT also has inconveniences like batteries, BT pairing bs, more latency, worse mics and generally being way more expensive than a decent pair of wired earbuds.
Barely any cost, if any noticable cost at all. Phones are more expensive than ever. A headphone jack is not going to make much difference compared to the price increase of decent BT headphones/earbuds. And the reason few use it anymore is because everyone was forced to move to BT (or a dongle, which also sucks) due to phones almost collectively dropping the jack.
Hardly. The quality is worse than the mp3s I downloaded from the pirate bay back in the day. Aptx hd is better but fairly uncommon. Sbc in high bitrate wounds fairly good but I’ve only come across it on linux with pipewire.
When CDs started taking place of cassettes, most vehicles had BOTH tapedecks and CD players. They didn’t immediately ditch the old shit. They actually compromised.
And how long have phones and cars had bluetooth and aux?
IDK; I havent had a car with bluetooth yet.
They make Bluetooth adapters for aux jacks and tape decks.
So get a 20 year old phone to match your car?
Since this is obviously impractical, do you suggest buying a new car to fit the phone, then?
You came to the point of absurdity. If the car runs, and phones easily supported it through a technology that stays highly relevant and widely used, then why is it changed?
It’s not that 3,5mm jack is outdated by any means.
Obviously missing the point. Technology changes. 20 years ago, cars replaced tape decks with cds. 40 years ago they were replacing 8 tracks for cassettes. New cars dont even include any media other than bluetooth and fm radio. 3.5mm may still be ‘useful’ but the fwct of the matter, the majority of users wont even notice its absence.
Is it really such a great majority, though? And how damn hard is it to put 3,5mm in a car?
About the same effort as putting physical buttons… yet they are all putting a single touchscreen slab.
Sadly, they made it outdated. And it was surprisingly easy to convince people of that fact.
They said to people “we’re taking away functionality from you, but it’s a good thing, as now we can sell you the new stuff and you won’t have a choice - make sure to argue with people that don’t agree,” and most people obeyed for whatever reason.
Exactly. But screw them and screw that - even if Fairphone does it.