• kameecoding@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    You see, here in Europe(at least in my country) we have a system where you can allow certain companies e.g. your mobile provider to just take the monthly amount from your account, without you having to bother with setting up recurring payments or worse, paying it manually, but it’s fully under your control, you set the upper limit and you can cancel it from your side anytime.

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      2 days ago

      Lol. Wait till you learn that SEPA is pull-based

      You do not have control. But you do have laws that allow you to challenge the pull, if you notice it within the window

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          Yes, they can.

          The UI makes it seem push-based, but it’s actually pull based. There is no technical barrier from pulling from someone’s account. Any malicious entity can do this if they present the bank with a forged hand signature. Or, of course, a malicious bank. Or, of course, a malicious employee at a bank.

          Worse, banks won’t let you create a whitelist of accounts that are explicitly permitted pull from your account (called “positive pay” for ACH)