“I think it’s going to require a little bit less navel-gazing and a little less whining and being in fetal positions. And it’s going to require Democrats to just toughen up,” Obama said at the fundraiser

    • Doom@ttrpg.network
      913·
      2 days ago

      Lol 100%. Liberals, the left, progressives whatever you wanna call them die because one criticism and folks act like they’re basically Hitler or something.

      Crabs in a bucket

      • kreskin@lemmy.world
        3·
        12 hours ago

        I’ll take crabs in a bucket if you’ll take humans with your heads crammed up republican rears. Deal?

        • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
          22·
          23 hours ago

          In North America, they call leftists liberals & don’t split hairs like Europe & Latin America.

          In Europe and Latin America, liberalism means a moderate form of classical liberalism and includes both conservative liberalism (centre-right liberalism) and social liberalism (centre-left liberalism). In North America, liberalism almost exclusively refers to social liberalism.

          People in the US get seriously confused that the Liberal party in other countries (eg, Australia) isn’t liberal.

          • Doom@ttrpg.network
            1·
            16 hours ago

            Literally not talking about them in anyway that designating the difference matters. Clearly speaking of the left leaning folks in America.

            Also politics aren’t real. They’re made up. The definition of a liberal has and will continue to change.

            • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
              1·
              14 hours ago

              That was clear when you wrote

              Liberals, the left, progressives whatever you wanna call them

              to refer to anything to the left of center and about US politics.

              People at lemmy keep raising this left & liberal distinction, and it’s incredibly annoying, since liberal means left in US politics.

              My conjecture is that it’s the German & Euro part of the community doing it & teaching it to US novices who don’t know better. Their understanding that liberal means classical liberal conservative & their uninformed thinking that a president during Obama’s terms can push any radical change and simply chose not to out of liberalism could explain the unreal arguments & expectations they keep raising here.

        • Doom@ttrpg.network
          57·
          1 day ago

          LMFAO how is that your take away?

          “The worst thing for a (liberal/socialist/leftist/progressive) is another (aforementioned word here)”

          That’s the famous quote. Progress dies because everyone nitpicks it to deal. Obama wasn’t perfect therefore he is Hitler, that is what people think of this as.