💪 Another region liberated from the Empire’s Nazi regime!
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“Liberated”? Hilarious. That’s like saying I “liberated” your wallet, when I took it from your pocket.
So, how should we call it when people are “not liberated” from the regime that doesn’t let people escape the country and that kidnaps people off the streets and sends them to die in the meatgrinder?
I always thought that the word for that is liberated, but I’d gladly learn a better one :)
It’s Russia’s fault that anybody is dying. You blame Russia. If Russia leaves then there’s no meat grinder. Simple as.
Well, why would I blame Russia for Zelensky’s actions?
It’s his regime that turned country into a prison that doesn’t let people out and kidnaps them off the street to send them to die.
Russia is liberating people from that. I just hope that they will be able to liberate the whole Ukraine instead of just 4 regions (even if it’s probably unrealistic and not their goal…).
Last I checked Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Putin did that. Then Putin began a major offensive in 2022, causing an existential crisis for Ukraine. If Russia really cared about “saving” they would leave, and the “kidnapping” wouldnstop. None of it started until Russia invaded. This “kidnapping” you speak of is Ukraine enforcing it’s conscription laws, laws that have been expanded because of Putin’s brutal actions. Russia does the same thing to it’s people. And try skipping the draft in South Korea or Israel. They don’t take kindly to that either.
Tell me, how many Ukrainians have you spoken to since the Russia restarted it’s brutal war of aggression in 2022? My guess is zero.
If Russia really cared about “saving” they would leave, and the “kidnapping” wouldnstop.
They liberate the people from Zelensky’s regime, people that decided they don’t want to be under his rule.
This “kidnapping” you speak of is Ukraine enforcing it’s conscription laws
And Russia is liberatong people from being kidnapped. From regime of people like you, who think that kidnapping and killing people can be justified.
Tell me, how many Ukrainians have you spoken to since the Russia restarted it’s brutal war of aggression in 2022? My guess is zero.
I am Ukrainian. My family is Ukrainian. More than half of my friends ar Ukrainian. Some of my colleagues are Ukrainian. Some of them are living good lives, because like me, they either legally or illegally managed to leave Ukraine. Some of them are still in Zelensky’s prison and live in fear of being kidnapped and killed. I say that Russia liberates Ukraine because I know what happens there and I have some basic empathy towards other people, in contrast to fascist.worlders. Zelensky blesses TCC animals to kidnap people off the street. Russia sends drones and rockets into TCC buildings. It’s pretty obvious who is liberating people and who abuses them.
By that logic every country should invade every other country to “save” the population that didn’t vote for the party currently in power. You truly are braindead. Your thinking is not based in reality. I hope the russians “liberate” you.
If Russia is so good to Ukrainians then why aren’t you there? I’m starting to think you’re a liar. Just kidding I’ve known you were a liar from the start. every Ukrainian me and my wife know, and there are dozens, both in the country still and outside, know that Russian “liberation” is a death sentence.
You’re a liar and a charlatan. Have the day you deserve
By that logic every country should invade every other country to “save” the population that didn’t vote for the party currently in power.
No need, only the countries where the power is grabbed by people who kidnap and terrorize the population please :)
If Russia is so good to Ukrainians then why aren’t you there?
I am from a territory that is not yet liberated by Russia. Obviously I cannot return there anytime soon, because if I do I will be trapped in Zelensky’s prison like everybody else. But even if it gets librrated, I currently have more economic opportunities elsewhere, so until retirement I will probably at most visit “there” (but again only if the territory gets liberated).
know that Russian “liberation” is a death sentence.
Ask them what happens when someone gets kidnapped by TCC ;)
You know, I of course also have a few “friends” who support Zelensky’s regime, also both in and outside of Ukraine. You know how they are different from the rest? They are also fascists, like you, and also like you they do not need to be afraid of getting kidnapped and meatgrinded (either because they are not Ukrainians, are rich, or also escaped Ukraine). So, their logic is also like yours, somethig like “Russian orcs are invaders and we should fight them, kidnapping is justified. Me? No no, here is a list of reasons I cannot fight, even tho I want to… But other people, they should fight and die for Ukrainian glory!!”
No one was preventing anyone from leaving the country…they just don’t get to take the land with them. That’s not how it works. The word for that is “stealing”.
You probably misunderstood what I meant :)
By not allowing people to escape I meant this: https://theconversation.com/why-banning-men-from-leaving-ukraine-violates-their-human-rights-178411
By kidnapping people off the streets I meant this (and well, hundreds of other sources): https://uadraftmuseum.ch/
So let me ask you once again, when someone frees people from that, what is a more appropriate word than liberation? :)
Conscription has always violated human rights but there are certainly better words like “conquer”. And let’s not pretend Russia isn’t also conscripting men (though certainly not those in their 50s).
Conscription has always violated human rights
Well, that’s true, at least we can agree on that :)
What happens in Ukraine isn’t even “conscription” tho, it’s literally just masked men hunting other men on the streets and kidnapping them into vans (grab first ask questions later). Just look up “busification” (word of the year 2024 according to some Ukrainian dictionary organization btw) if you want to see more.
there are certainly better words like “conquer”
Why would you think that “conquer” is more appropriate than “liberation” in this context? When hostages are freed, and can now do whatever they want (instead of just being hostages), do you say they were conquered or maybe liberated? Same situation here.
Well TIL. But to call it liberation isn’t correct. America is also kidnapping people from their homes and work places but to say of another country was to invade and take a territory wouldn’t be the same as liberation. Liberation has a higher standard where the people of the land receive sovereignty and a self-determined government.
America is also kidnapping people from their homes and work places
Are you talking about ICE?
Well, I think it’s a question of scale.
If somebody invaded USA to liberate “illegals” (so, after taking power, “illegals” would have the same rights as “legals”), I would also call that a liberation, but only for that group of people. I wouldn’t say that USA as a whole got liberated though, because obviously this is just a small group that received additional liberties.
It’s different in case of Ukraine. Almost every single family (apart from the rich ones, obviously) is a potential subject to kidnapping (and killing/wounding) of their men. So here it’s liberating everyone, therefore I don’t think there is more appropriate word than liberation.
That’s already after the initial crime has been committed…and is a direct result of it.
It also intentionally mischaracterized what that article is talking about. Russia isn’t “liberating” the people in those regions. They are stealing that land, and calling it “liberation”.
Russia isn’t “liberating” the people in those regions. They are stealing that land, and calling it “liberation”.
But it is. And I literally just told you why - the people on the liberated territories gain more freedoms (or liberties, as in liberated ;) ), freedom of movement, freedom of leaving the country, freedom of not being kidnapped off the street, freedom to vote for political parties parties, freedom to speak whatever language they want, etc. etc. etc.
This is literally the dictionary definition of word " liberation" :)
Also, they are not stealing land, what are you talking about? The land / real estate in the liberated territories still belongs to the people that live there, nothing changed (well, except those people having rights and liberties insyead of being Zelensky’s cannon fodder).
Russia also drafts civilians. Hundreds of thousands of them, so far. So, what you are saying, is pure bullshit. Russia doesn’t give a fuck how many civilians die for Putin’s war.
If they did care, it would be the easiest thing in the world to solve. Just withdraw their troops and go home. Everyone lives. The ongoing death toll has always been up to them. They chose this.
Russia also drafts civilians. Hundreds of thousands of them, so far.
Ah, silly me, look like I felt victim to tankie propaganda, I thought in Russia people join the army because there are monetary incentives to do so! Can you now please share a page similar to https://uadraftmuseum.ch/ documenting how evil Russian empire kidnaps people off the streets, beats and busifies them, so that I can finally break free from the propaganda? Thank you very much!
I don’t understand all the cheerleading for this war from both sides. It was caused by bad politics on both sides, and I don’t feel particularly happy when I read about thousands of people loosing their lives.
Well Nazis getting killed and people liberated from them is good news. And there was one side that was the aggressor and another one that responded to it.
I mean idk if all those people are Nazis though, lots of conscripts in this war.
Same was in wehrmacht, but still not sad for them.
I mean, I feel sorry for people who get propagandised and convinced to die for a fruitless cause but maybe that’s just me.
I get what you mean, so i am rooting for the fascist regime to lose as fast as possible. Also being conscripted does not free from the responsibility for participation in war crimes, as established in Nuremburg “i was following orders” is not sufficient line of defense.
Idk to me this is a stereo typical bourgeois war. I don’t think there is a good side really.
Perhaps. Killing them is still justified. The forced conscription is done by the regime the west installed after the coup.
I don’t think the Ukraine under Russia would be any better than Ukraine under the USA, I think people just enjoy looting the country. I don’t see a difference between two competing bourgeoise parties scrambling to control a very corrupt country.
It’s not about Ukraine , that’s just the playing field. The west did a coup to use Ukraine to move position east, there would not have been a war at all if that was not the case. People smarter than me have been warning about the coming war in Ukraine since the 90s
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.worlders need to expand their list of rote insults, they’re getting repetitive
They’ll never tell you the truth over there at nazi.world 😉
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Hopefully Ukraine would liberate it back and eventually win the special operation
Just going to cheer on Nazi regimes out in the open I see…
No, we don’t support Russia.
Y’all are desperate to relive the glory days of WW2 when it was clear who the baddies were. I get it, Americans do the same.
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Don’t you mean Slava the Russian Federation 🇷🇺 ?
No. Oddly enough I don’t support genocidal delusions of grandeur
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Friend, most of the bad stuff you’ve heard about Russia/Putin has come out of the western propaganda machine headed by the US empire to discredit communism everywhere. You have probably been fed lies your whole life, I understand that must be a difficult thing to reconcile so just have an open mind! 😀
If that US media empire wanted to discredit communism, there is no reason to write about Russia, (another) authoritarian imperialist dictatorship.
My friend. I know enough about what is and isn’t propaganda to know that you are completely full of shit. Take your fascism to another corner of the internet where you can talk about how everybody else is a Nazi and you aren’t lol
Russia signed for Donetsk to stay independant and neutral. They broke both promises.
What ? You mean the occupying forces of Ukraine wasn’t allowed to incorporate them in their new Reich? Good thing they were liberated by the Russian as the people of Donetsk says.
