No one fails harder than centrists. They are objectively, evidently pathetic. If COVID hadn’t occurred we’d be in the third Trump presidency, and you’d still be sitting here like a good bootlicker telling me I didn’t vote hard enough for centrists and ignoring that AOC and Bernard Sanders are filling football stadiums in red states.
I repeat: I wish you all fought as hard against fascism as you do for the billionaire class.
AOC and Bernie stopped in my red state. I went and saw more than half the license plates were from out of state. Those that were from my state were from the one blue county.
We recently had an election between an establishment Republican and a progressive and the progressive lost by a landslide.
Don’t lie to yourself. AOC and Bernie have fans that will travel to see them from other states.
Democrats are trying to stop progressives from throwing the election like they have every time they win a primary.
Progressives can’t even beat other candidates that get funded by AIPAC let alone beat republicans.
Democrats are trying to stop progressives from throwing the election like they have every time they win a primary.
LOL, did you happen to see Joe Biden’s dementia on full public display last summer?
They are not trying to stop anyone from throwing an election, or they wouldn’t have let Joe Biden crown a weak candidate.
Democrats are rigging primaries to help the billionaire class, and doing so in full knowledge that they’re aiding fascists, because they themselves are profiting off of it.
Voters were very clear that they would consider it a betrayal to primary instead of replacing Biden with the Vice President since that is the job of a vice president.
Trump says way more crazy shit than Biden and he won. Matter of fact Trump lost by a lot in 2020, if he were to follow the same strategy as leftists he would’ve quit before trying again in 2024.
All politicians and forms of government are susceptible to corruption. Just look at Fetterman and Sinema. Just because someone claims to be progressive doesn’t mean they won’t help the billionaire class or fascists.
Voters were very clear that they would consider it a betrayal
No, they weren’t. There wasn’t a primary.
Trump says way more crazy shit than Biden and he won.
Apples to oranges. You saw Biden’s meltdown and I did too.
All politicians and forms of government are susceptible to corruption. Just look at Fetterman and Sinema. Just because someone claims to be progressive doesn’t mean they won’t help the billionaire class or fascists.
A salient point. The Democrats’ next campaign slogan should be: Better things aren’t possible if you vote for us.
Centrists lost to Trump, the objectively worst candidate for president.
Sanders received a loud applause from a Fox News town hall. I’m not so sure he’d have lost.
When voters have chosen the option furthest to the right it is stupid to think that running a candidate further left would do anything but lose.
Trying to do right-wing policy “better” than the right-wing candidate has consistently lost elections to far-right candidates. All it does is validate the far-right candidate’s positions, and they’ll always be considered “stronger” on those positions
People primarily vote for change, and that’s exactly what the centrists haven’t been able to offer. It’s why Biden lost, it’s why Harris lost, it’s why Clinton lost.
I saw that town hall on Fox News with Bernie. The people in the audience were asking about what he was going to do to fix climate change and a lot of subjects that Republicans deny even exists. That audience wasn’t Republican don’t lie to yourself.
Bill Clinton won two consecutive terms.
Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and lost because of Russian election interference.
Biden won.
Harris lost because of inflation caused by post covid supply chain problems, according to the polls.
Ignoring the fact that voters chose the furthest option to the right give the next election to the GOP, if there is another election.
Just because what you’re saying on lemmy gets upvotes doesn’t mean it would get votes irl.
Popular opinions on lemmy are the exact opposite of what voters vote for.
There was recently a post here on lemmy that proposed AOC running for president and the top voted comment was that she would lose. Even here on lemmy enough people are aware of the leftists echo chamber and how detached it is from reality.
That audience wasn’t Republican don’t lie to yourself.
Fox News decided to invite a bunch of progressives? Don’t kid yourself.
Clinton lost for a lot of reasons. But she managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of what should have been an overwhelming blowout. It’s not just Russian interference at that point, that’s delusional.
Biden won once, barely, and only with Trumps shit 1st term stuck in economic crisis after Covid. Biden then ended up so far behind in the polls they pulled him from being embarrassingly defeated by Trump. Harris lost because she didn’t offer any meaningful difference from the Biden era. That includes inflation, but again it’s not the only reason people didn’t turn out for her. Polls also showed she alienated a core left-wing demographic that stayed home. She needed every vote but made poor decisions that cost her more votes than she could gain.
The right-wing does campaigning on right-wing policy better than any centrist candidate ever could. You see this happening everywhere, not just the US.
AOC for president is ridiculous, her heart might be in the right place but she doesn’t have a wide enough appeal. Sanders is different. There has been plenty of polling done that showed Sanders had a better chance at beating Trump than Harris or Biden did.
Fox News decided to invite a bunch of progressives? Don’t kid yourself.
Republicans deny the existence of climate change and vaccines and many other topics that were brought up in that townhall. Your feelings won’t change that.
Everything else in your response was conjecture and excuses.
Polls also showed she alienated a core left-wing demographic that stayed home.
At least you acknowledge that pandering to the left is a waste of time. Leftist have a reputation for not showing up to vote. But that is probably because there are so few of them that they need to team up with democrats just to have a voice.
Leftists consistently lose elections.
Voters have consistently shown they don’t want to elect leftists.
Centrists have won the majority of elections since the 90s.
AOC and Bernie would lose worse than Harris in a national election. Just like all leftists have.
When voters have chosen the option furthest to the right it is stupid to think that running a candidate further left would do anything but lose.
Democrats had to rig not one, but two primaries against Bernard Sanders, and not only did they not deny it, they argued in court that it was their right to do so.
No one fails harder than centrists. They are objectively, evidently pathetic. If COVID hadn’t occurred we’d be in the third Trump presidency, and you’d still be sitting here like a good bootlicker telling me I didn’t vote hard enough for centrists and ignoring that AOC and Bernard Sanders are filling football stadiums in red states.
I repeat: I wish you all fought as hard against fascism as you do for the billionaire class.
AOC and Bernie stopped in my red state. I went and saw more than half the license plates were from out of state. Those that were from my state were from the one blue county.
We recently had an election between an establishment Republican and a progressive and the progressive lost by a landslide.
Don’t lie to yourself. AOC and Bernie have fans that will travel to see them from other states.
Democrats are trying to stop progressives from throwing the election like they have every time they win a primary.
Progressives can’t even beat other candidates that get funded by AIPAC let alone beat republicans.
LOL, did you happen to see Joe Biden’s dementia on full public display last summer?
They are not trying to stop anyone from throwing an election, or they wouldn’t have let Joe Biden crown a weak candidate.
Democrats are rigging primaries to help the billionaire class, and doing so in full knowledge that they’re aiding fascists, because they themselves are profiting off of it.
Voters were very clear that they would consider it a betrayal to primary instead of replacing Biden with the Vice President since that is the job of a vice president.
Trump says way more crazy shit than Biden and he won. Matter of fact Trump lost by a lot in 2020, if he were to follow the same strategy as leftists he would’ve quit before trying again in 2024.
All politicians and forms of government are susceptible to corruption. Just look at Fetterman and Sinema. Just because someone claims to be progressive doesn’t mean they won’t help the billionaire class or fascists.
No, they weren’t. There wasn’t a primary.
Apples to oranges. You saw Biden’s meltdown and I did too.
A salient point. The Democrats’ next campaign slogan should be: Better things aren’t possible if you vote for us.
Centrists lost to Trump, the objectively worst candidate for president.
Sanders received a loud applause from a Fox News town hall. I’m not so sure he’d have lost.
Trying to do right-wing policy “better” than the right-wing candidate has consistently lost elections to far-right candidates. All it does is validate the far-right candidate’s positions, and they’ll always be considered “stronger” on those positions
People primarily vote for change, and that’s exactly what the centrists haven’t been able to offer. It’s why Biden lost, it’s why Harris lost, it’s why Clinton lost.
I saw that town hall on Fox News with Bernie. The people in the audience were asking about what he was going to do to fix climate change and a lot of subjects that Republicans deny even exists. That audience wasn’t Republican don’t lie to yourself.
Bill Clinton won two consecutive terms.
Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and lost because of Russian election interference.
Biden won.
Harris lost because of inflation caused by post covid supply chain problems, according to the polls.
Ignoring the fact that voters chose the furthest option to the right give the next election to the GOP, if there is another election.
Just because what you’re saying on lemmy gets upvotes doesn’t mean it would get votes irl.
Popular opinions on lemmy are the exact opposite of what voters vote for.
There was recently a post here on lemmy that proposed AOC running for president and the top voted comment was that she would lose. Even here on lemmy enough people are aware of the leftists echo chamber and how detached it is from reality.
Fox News decided to invite a bunch of progressives? Don’t kid yourself.
Clinton lost for a lot of reasons. But she managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of what should have been an overwhelming blowout. It’s not just Russian interference at that point, that’s delusional.
Biden won once, barely, and only with Trumps shit 1st term stuck in economic crisis after Covid. Biden then ended up so far behind in the polls they pulled him from being embarrassingly defeated by Trump. Harris lost because she didn’t offer any meaningful difference from the Biden era. That includes inflation, but again it’s not the only reason people didn’t turn out for her. Polls also showed she alienated a core left-wing demographic that stayed home. She needed every vote but made poor decisions that cost her more votes than she could gain.
The right-wing does campaigning on right-wing policy better than any centrist candidate ever could. You see this happening everywhere, not just the US.
AOC for president is ridiculous, her heart might be in the right place but she doesn’t have a wide enough appeal. Sanders is different. There has been plenty of polling done that showed Sanders had a better chance at beating Trump than Harris or Biden did.
Republicans deny the existence of climate change and vaccines and many other topics that were brought up in that townhall. Your feelings won’t change that.
Everything else in your response was conjecture and excuses.
At least you acknowledge that pandering to the left is a waste of time. Leftist have a reputation for not showing up to vote. But that is probably because there are so few of them that they need to team up with democrats just to have a voice.