• Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    I don’t mean to be that guy but, whales are delicious. And you get approx 3500kg of meat (low estimate) from a minke whale, whereas you’ll get about 75kg from a commercially farmed pig. Meaning you have to kill 46 pigs to get the same amount of meat as 1 whale.

    Both pigs and whales are intelligent and emotionally developed animals. Whales live free and normal lives up until the point of their harpooning, whereas pigs are kept in filthy overcrowded conditions and kept alive with antibiotics because they wouldn’t last long without them. They are of course eventually killed, but unlike cattle they don’t get a quick death from a bolt gun to the head. No pigs are asphyxiated with carbon dioxide. They spend the last moments of their tortured existence choking to death.

    That doesn’t take into account the massive environmental impact of large pig farms. Because pigs eat more nitrogen rich food than other farm animals, their feces leads to over nitrification of anything downstream and eutrophication of waterways.

    So if you are sitting there chomping a bacon sandwich and bitching and moaning about whaling, take a long hard look in the mirror, because the pig farming you support is immeasurably worse both ethically and environmentally.

    • AnarchoDakosaurus@toast.ooo
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      13 hours ago

      I get the point you’re trying to make but if people ate whale the same way we ate pig the entire ocean ecosystem would have collapsed by now.

      Not to mention almost all whale species are on their way to being endangered right now, while factory farmed pigs aren’t.

      Maybe just go with the line all meat is murder rather bacon is worse then whale flesh lmao.

    • Dasus@lemmy.world
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      12 hours ago

      I don’t eat pork, really.

      But it’s not because I considered pigs that smart, it’s just a cruel practice, industrial farming. I’m fine with them being farmed if there’s proper regulation.

      I do eat deer, horse and reindeer among other things as well. Less so beef, or try to at least.

      So I guess if you’re talking about the whaling of the common minke whale which isn’t a threatened species at the moment, and I’d look into the regulation and practices, I guess I’d be fine with eating some.

      Although I would still attribute vastly higher intelligence to whales than deer and pigs. I mean, it’s hard to measure, but pigs eat their own babies which they kill by accident. That’s why they have like a dozen. And prey animals like deer are usually kinda frantic and not seemingly that smart.

      Whereas whales, we don’t even know how intelligent they are, but some species are definitely super intelligent and the communication they use is complex af.

      Still, can’t say you’re wrong in your points, as I often make the same points for deer, but they breed kinda lot and they honestly have to be kept in check so they don’t ruin environments whereas I’m pretty sure whales aren’t considered pests anywhere? I mean, I’m not at all sure, but I am guessing. There’s those ship destroying ones, but that seems targeted against humans and not them generally destroying their environment.