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minus-squareZwiebel@feddit.orglinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up50·3 days ago Natural numbers include zero That is a divisive opinion and not actually a fact
minus-squareKogasa@programming.devlinkfedilinkarrow-up5·3 days agoYeah, it’s a matter of convention rather than opinion really, but among US academia the convention is to exclude 0 from the naturals. I think in France they include it.
minus-squareSchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·2 days agopositive interers with addition are not a monoid though, since the identity element of addition is 0
minus-squareLog in | Sign up@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·2 days agoThey’re not a complete algebraically closed field either, but I don’t see you advocating for including e - i in the natural numbers!
minus-squareSchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·2 days agoyeah, this is kinda weak argument
minus-squareLog in | Sign up@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1·1 day agoNot sure if you’re conceding the monoid part or not. We can agree that the natural numbers are a semigroup, I think, which should make us all happy.
minus-squareSchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·2 days agoI hope that explains everything
minus-squarelengau@midwest.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down1·edit-23 days agoYeah I find it easier to just accept the terminology of natural numbers and whole numbers so we have simple names for both.
That is a divisive opinion and not actually a fact
Yeah, it’s a matter of convention rather than opinion really, but among US academia the convention is to exclude 0 from the naturals. I think in France they include it.
positive interers with addition are not a monoid though, since the identity element of addition is 0
They’re not a complete algebraically closed field either, but I don’t see you advocating for including e - i in the natural numbers!
yeah, this is kinda weak argument
Not sure if you’re conceding the monoid part or not.
We can agree that the natural numbers are a semigroup, I think, which should make us all happy.
Okay
I hope that explains everything
Yeah I find it easier to just accept the terminology of natural numbers and whole numbers so we have simple names for both.