You could say it’s wrong that Israel was established by, as far as I’m aware, taking land by force. But probably most countries were established that way.
I’ve been thinking that maybe there should be a single state in the land of Israel/Palestine with citizenship given to everybody who currently lives there. But from what I’ve read, Israelis and Palestinians prefer a two-state solution, so maybe that should be pursued instead.
genocide is not self defense
I’m not saying that Israeli attacks on Gaza are self-defence. Attacks on civilians are definitely not self-defence. I specifically mentioned Iron Dome as a form of self-defence, a system which tries to take out missiles that are fired into Israel.
The only defenders in this situation are the Palestinian people
It’s possible to acknowledge that Israel’s current behaviour towards Gaza is very wrong, while also acknowledging that Israel has had rockets and missiles fired at them, from Hamas and Iran if I remember right.
Obviously the people who are suffering the most at the moment are Gazans, because Israel has stopped food from getting into Gaza, and Israel keeps bombing Gaza, which is killing civilians. This is obviously the most pressing issue. I just think that ideally no civilians would be harmed or killed, whether it’s those suffering in Gaza at the moment, or whether it’s Palestinians in the West Bank, or whether it’s Israeli civilians.
I’ve been thinking that maybe there should be a single state in the land of Israel/Palestine with citizenship given to everybody who currently lives there.
Ok cool so you side with Hamas and the PFLP and understand that they are not fighting a people they are fighting a genocidal colonizer project.
We can literally end this right there. You just basically arrived accidentally at the thing we have been advocating for the whole fucking time.
I specifically mentioned Iron Dome as a form of self-defence
I can’t come into your house, murder your family, lock you in your basement without food or water then cry self defense when you attack me for it.
or whether it’s Israeli civilians.
There are no Israeli civilians aside from those unable to serve in the IDF because they are imprisoned for not doing so. All casualties of children there are the fault of their parents for choosing to be a part of a genocidal settler colonial project.
I have no more sympathy for them than I do my own ancestors who killed and displaced indigenous people in America.
You are close to getting it but need to let go of some racist brainworms.
No I don’t side with Hamas. Hamas went into Israel and murdered over 1,000 people. I don’t think Israelis or Palestinians should be killed.
settler colonial project
What’s your solution for Israel/Palestine? Should Jews never have moved to Mandatory Palestine? Should Jews have been prevented from moving to Mandatory Palestine? Should they now be expelled from Israel/Palestine?
What I suggested in my previous post is “maybe there should be a single state in the land of Israel/Palestine with citizenship given to everybody who currently lives there”. But would it be wrong in your view to give Jews citizenship in this hypothetical state, if the Jews are indeed colonial settlers?
You could say it’s wrong that Israel was established by, as far as I’m aware, taking land by force. But probably most countries were established that way.
I’ve been thinking that maybe there should be a single state in the land of Israel/Palestine with citizenship given to everybody who currently lives there. But from what I’ve read, Israelis and Palestinians prefer a two-state solution, so maybe that should be pursued instead.
I’m not saying that Israeli attacks on Gaza are self-defence. Attacks on civilians are definitely not self-defence. I specifically mentioned Iron Dome as a form of self-defence, a system which tries to take out missiles that are fired into Israel.
It’s possible to acknowledge that Israel’s current behaviour towards Gaza is very wrong, while also acknowledging that Israel has had rockets and missiles fired at them, from Hamas and Iran if I remember right.
Obviously the people who are suffering the most at the moment are Gazans, because Israel has stopped food from getting into Gaza, and Israel keeps bombing Gaza, which is killing civilians. This is obviously the most pressing issue. I just think that ideally no civilians would be harmed or killed, whether it’s those suffering in Gaza at the moment, or whether it’s Palestinians in the West Bank, or whether it’s Israeli civilians.
Ok cool so you side with Hamas and the PFLP and understand that they are not fighting a people they are fighting a genocidal colonizer project.
We can literally end this right there. You just basically arrived accidentally at the thing we have been advocating for the whole fucking time.
I can’t come into your house, murder your family, lock you in your basement without food or water then cry self defense when you attack me for it.
There are no Israeli civilians aside from those unable to serve in the IDF because they are imprisoned for not doing so. All casualties of children there are the fault of their parents for choosing to be a part of a genocidal settler colonial project.
I have no more sympathy for them than I do my own ancestors who killed and displaced indigenous people in America.
You are close to getting it but need to let go of some racist brainworms.
No I don’t side with Hamas. Hamas went into Israel and murdered over 1,000 people. I don’t think Israelis or Palestinians should be killed.
What’s your solution for Israel/Palestine? Should Jews never have moved to Mandatory Palestine? Should Jews have been prevented from moving to Mandatory Palestine? Should they now be expelled from Israel/Palestine?
What I suggested in my previous post is “maybe there should be a single state in the land of Israel/Palestine with citizenship given to everybody who currently lives there”. But would it be wrong in your view to give Jews citizenship in this hypothetical state, if the Jews are indeed colonial settlers?