If a country like the UK decided to ban end-to-end encryption, how would they even enforce it? I understand that they could demand big companies like Apple stop providing such services to their customers and withdraw certain apps from the UK App Store. But what’s stopping someone from simply going online and downloading an app like Session? I mean, piracy is banned too, yet you can still download a torrent client and start pirating. What would a ban like this actually prohibit in the end?

  • Opinionhaver@feddit.ukOP
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    1 day ago

    So this would yet again only affect the people who are not the problem while the people they intend to target with said ban would remain more or less unaffected.

    • Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      20 hours ago

      Maybe not entirely, governments probably aren’t thrilled that something that was once an obstacle to authorities when dealing with a small group of dedicated individuals now extends to huge portions of the population for any and every investigation where their communications might have helped authorities build their case so you can see why they might try and remove that obstacle for themselves.

    • jet@hackertalks.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      24
      ·
      1 day ago

      people they intend to target

      They absolutely intend to Target the people who will be affected. The stated use case is an excuse, but once a government gets a capability it never gives it up.

    • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      23 hours ago

      Partly correct.

      It’s true that anyone with nefarious intent would still be able to encrypt things.

      However, it means law enforcement doesn’t need to bother decrypting things to make arrests.

    • masterspace@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      1 day ago

      People here are generally going to be distrustful towards the government, and for good reason, this feels like gross overreach imho, but at the same time, I think it’s a little naiive to view all potential terrorists as tech savvy enough to know to use the right open source encryption package. I’m sure this would help them catch some percentage more of attackers.

      Again, to be clear, I don’t think that’s remotely worth the damage that unencrypted messaging can do, but there’s enough examples of incompetence and bad opsec amongst criminals to think that someone would just continue to use whatever is most convenient or what their friend told them is good.