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Ok, a few things :
- I dislike her pronunciation of GrapheneOS really emphasizing the “ene” part
- For anyone not wanting to be stuck buying a Pixel, new or used (still kind of pricey), look into LineageOS /e/, or CalyxOS (though CalyxOS is paused for an interal audit or something)
- What about other data being sent over your carrier network outside of just Google? You’re better off buying a plan for a mobile hotspot so it limits data that IDs you with your IMSI and IMEI info. Carriers otherwise still monetize your data, even though Google isn’t getting it.
My next phone will be whatever I want that’ll run LineageOS (sure, no “Titan chip”) but will run F-Droid store, and only run on a hotspot I’ll have with me (for work, goes in my work bag), anywhere else can sit in my car or pocket, etc. It’ll help as I use private/FOSS apps, randomized MAC for WiFi, VPN services, etc. Hushed or done 2nd phone nine for WiFi calling, etc
I also have been social media free for over a decade now. No Amazon, no streaming services, and self-host anything I can
Hey! Avoid Google by buying a phone from… GOOGLE!
Seriously. I wish the devs would work on bringing the OS to Samsung phones instead. They’re just as popular, if not more than Google Pixel phones.
Part of the issue is that the latest version of Samsung’s OneUI completely removes the option to unlock the bootloader. More technical info on the (xda forum).
pixels are unobtanium where i live. i wish there could be graphene on more phones.
They are in talks with a major android manufacturer to build graphene phone.
and it’s gonna be cheap and readily available worldwide, right?
I can only dream
As an alternative, if you wanted something less secure, and more ethical, consider buying a Fairphone. However GrapheneOS does not support Fairphone at this moment.
/e/os and lineage is support fairphone, you can have both
This would still be less secure.
True, but then on the upside it’s not a Google phone. Which could be more secure from nefarious back doors.
Also there is a part of the Pixel phone which you’re locked from reformating – Is it the bios or bootloader?
Bring on support for more devices, and I’ll likely switch with my next phone.
They’re working on an alternative device with a large OEM they’ve not disclosed yet. They’re aiming at releasing it in 2027.
The smart money is they’re going to go with Motorola, honestly idc who they go with it’ll likely be my next phone
Same here, i can’t wait to ditch my old xiaomi 10 full of bloatwares and ads
If you don’t like the bloatware… unlock the bootloader and install a custom rom! Luckily Xiaomi allows you to unlock the bootloader if you have a global variant.
Xiaomi discontinued their blootloader unlocking service.
sorry for the very late response (it’s better late than never, isn’t it?), but Xiaomi has its bootloader unlocking service active. I used it last year to unlock my phone.
Here you can get the official mi unlock program (it works on hyperos): https://en.miui.com/unlock/index.html
And here is a guide to unlock the bootloader: https://miuirom.org/updates/xiaomi-bootloader
(don’t do the usb debugging part, I don’t know if it is necessary on older devices but on every xiaomi device that I had you don’t need to enable usb debugging so mi unlock can communicate with fastboot)
edit: spacing.
edit 2: please don’t do the bootloader lock via direct fastboot command as stated in the guide, I strongly recommend that you do a clean flash of stock rom with mi flash tool, if you plan to lock the bootloader later.
What do you compromise these days going to something like graphene versus a stock pixel? I know the advantages obviously, just wanting clarity on trade offs. Features that become unusable, vulnerabilities, etc.
The loss of most banking apps and Google Wallet (tap and pay). For me, those are the killer features you lose. And the reason I gave up on custom ROM’s on a FairPhone 3+ after many years.
I think “most banking apps” depends on your location. I never had any problems with them.
Yeah Google Wallet not working is annoying, but for me it’s a good tradeoff.
It’s not a location thing . . it’s a per-banking app thing. And specifically it’s a “does your banking app use Google Play integrity API” thing. On LineageOS running on my FairPhone 3 . . my banking apps all worked . . . until the day they didn’t. Here is a table reporting the current state of banking app comparability around the world . . but the next update from any specific bank could (and in my case did) break it -
PS. In the UK I did actually find an alternative to Google Wallet. . . Curve Pay. Not open source, but not dependent on Play Services. And enabled tap and pay on LineageOS.
Can’t you do a separate profile on graphene and enable Google Play services there? Or am I misremembering?
google play integrity works at a different level. it checks if you are running a google-approved, “sealed” operating system
Ohhhh, thanks for clarifying that for me.
