A question as old as time, I know.
I’m getting away from Google and I’ve done the easy stuff: CoMaps, Proton mail (I know, not the best move), aveslibre, etc. I currently don’t have the time (or the knowledge base) to learn how to self host, but hopefully that will replace Drive and such in the future.
But I digress. I’m looking at a new OS for my phone. I’m currently in a contract with a phone that is incompatible with alternative OSs. Graphene needs a Pixel. Used, they’re $150-400. /e/OS will run on a Motorola or whatever and those are like $80.
There’s also the option of going full Fairphone with /e/os and I like that idea in the future.
The internet people tell me that Graphene is the best due to ease of installation, privacy, and security.
I don’t need a lot of security. I just want Google to stop suckling all that sweet, sweet data from my teat.
What are your thoughts?
It is also largely questionable.
/e/OS has MicroG, and that runs as a system service. You can disable most of it, and if you’re not using any App that needs Google services, I doubt it really does much.
It is possible to use Graphene without using any Google at all. However… Doing so will break almost every app out there. Anything that needs push notifications, AndroidAuto, a thousands more things. So you end up using Graphene with Sandboxed Google services.
And we get into the debate. Is it better to take the official Google Play Services, which we all consider malicious, and run it in a sandbox, or take an open source private, and trusted implementation (MicroG) and run it as a system service?
It is at the very least largely debatable.
It is best to run GOS or Lineage OS completely Google-free.
LineageOS is not “Google-free”. The OS still connects to various Google services by default, even without Google Play Services installed.
https://lineageos.org/ https://www.kuketz-blog.de/lineageos-weder-sicher-noch-datenschutzfreundlich-custom-roms-teil4/
Obviously Graphene OS is the current gold standard for privacy, but you can run a Lineage OS device without Google Play Services, with only free/libre software installation sources, and without the telemetry for those users who can’t or won’t use current GOS. This is obviously a considerable improvement over a Chinese or other commercial manufacturer.
But, yes, if you can run GOS rather than LOS, you should.
This pretty much not adressing what I said at all. I use LineageOS myself and it’s miles better than the Stock Operating Systems of most if not all devices they support. But we shouldn’t mislead people, LineageOS is not fully “degoogled” and uses some Google services, even without the Google Play Services installed.
You’re engaging in a strawman. Privacy is not a boolean choice, there are degrees. Making a few connections to some Google servers is not the same as having stock Android.
You seem to be unable to understand simple English, so I’ll end the conversation here.