• NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    It’s great watching this in real time.

    More and more strikes are hitting air defence targets making it harder to defend against meaning more strikes succeeding.

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      5 days ago

      I’ve been saying this for months with my circle of buddies.

      The slow, methodical SEAD is like drilling holes in a dam. Enough holes happen then catastrophic failure happens.

      The drone war on the ground has changed ground combat, but air dominance for either side would completely change the balance of the fight. Great job Ukraine, slow and steady seems to be winning the race here.

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          5 days ago

          A friend and I were talking about it and he likened it to a controlled demolition as well. You don’t need to vaporize a building to make it collapse, you just need to hit the correct structures for it to collapse on it’s own. Both work, but holes in a dam is more gradual than a controlled demolition in my mind.

          What Ukraine has been doing for years now is extremely measured and smart warfare. They’ve been holding where they can, ceding ground where they can’t, and they have been methodically taking out logistics, AAA, and radars. These irreplaceable things eventually will create gaps in coverage, which can lead to increased air dominance in those localized areas. That air dominance will translate into gains on the ground, as drones can’t do shit to fighter jets yet.

          It’s costly warfare in terms of the manpower Ukraine has lost, but it’s really smart fighting.

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      7 days ago

      yup. there’s no quick replacements coming for those BUKs, and they’re EXPENSIVE as fuuuuck. And russia may not even possess the tech required to replace them at this point.

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        7 days ago

        And russia may not even possess the tech required to replace them at this point.

        Even more likely after they blew up Russia’s 2nd largest microchip facility last week or whenever it was.

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      Also losing the air war becomes a very slippery slope very quickly, the basic strategic mechanisms at play heavily favor the winner winning even harder the more they win.

      A lone air defense system is just a target, it only becomes a counter when it is integrated in a network of supporting air defenses and other elements.

      Once the sky is full of Ukrainian drones hunting down anything that dares to turn on a radar or present itself as an obstacle to Ukraine’s relentless long range drone strikes, from directions Russia cannot even begin to predict where from… not only has Russia fallen behind in a crucial element of the fight, they have been kicked out of the air war and had the door locked behind them so they can’t get back in.

      Another point, the more that drones are used to take out air defenses, the closer Ukrainian aviation can get to lob glide bombs on Russian positions, which also has a massive non-linear effect upon the frontline calculus.