Dbzero Governance Vote Post https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63525728

Ahoy mateys!

A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. …

More context

Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. …

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.

Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated

i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

  • rushmonke@ttrpg.networkEnglish
    1414·
    8 hours ago

    That’s pretty weak and other instances shouldn’t look up to them for this.

    Let people say, and see, what they want.

    • draco_aeneus@mander.xyzEnglish
      184·
      7 hours ago
      1. They had a vote, and the people said strongly that they did not want to see this.
      2. Platforming Facism is the best way to spread Facism, and deplatforming Facism is the best way to fight it. Supporting their freedom to speak is in effect the same as supporting the ideology.
      • rushmonke@ttrpg.networkEnglish
        71·
        6 hours ago

        Supporting their freedom to speak is in effect the same as supporting the ideology.

        It’s a shame most people on the internet don’t recognize how rhetoric like this causes more harm than good.

        “If you don’t support me in censoring my enemies, then you’re just as bad as they are.”

        • Riverside@reddthat.comEnglish
          51·
          3 hours ago

          “I will fight for the right of my enemies to have free speech!”, I proudly state as the fascist guards hand me a shovel and force me to dig my grave at gunpoint

      • lazynooblet@lazysoci.alEnglish
        61·
        6 hours ago

        A handful of examples shown and then a public vote for defederation seems wild and loose to me.

        The collateral damage from this is a mix of unwanted drama (see this post) and a whole bunch of users cut off from another that did nothing wrong.

        Lemmy is still young and small. These spats only hurt it’s community and image.