• Yliaster@lemmy.world
    9·
    3 hours ago

    Are we forgetting we have a literal pedophile as the president?

    How about we get that out?

    You know what else is a death cult that brutalizes everyone? ICE.

  • robocall@lemmy.world
    16·
    4 hours ago

    Christian nationalism

    • No religious freedom
    • Women brutalized
    • Slavery allowed
    • Child rape and marriage
    • Dogs are not guaranteed good treatment

    MAGA Christian nationalism is a death cult.

  • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
    15·
    8 hours ago

    Sharia is already prohibited… by the same first amendment which republicans ignore when they advocate for a theocracy…

    Basically all of those bullet points listed are things republican “christians” do. They only have a problem with it when it’s brown people doing it.

    Lest you think I’m advocating for sharia law, I’m not. I’m simply pointing out that “christian law” would be effectively the same thing, and they’re both equally prohibited by the constitution.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      4·
      8 hours ago

      Sharia is already prohibited…

      The various ideological tenants of the law aren’t prohibited. If a county wants to declare itself “dry” and refuse to issue alcohol sales permits, for instance, there’s no real state or federal guarantee against it. The fact that the people passing the law are doing so in the name of an Islamic faith rather than a Christian faith or a secular commitment to sobriety doesn’t normally play into the rule’s legality.

      Lest you think I’m advocating for sharia law, I’m not.

      I don’t think people writing or voting on this legislation really know anything about Islamic religious teachings or legal codes.

      If someone in a city council tried to cap the interest rate local creditors could charge, based on their opposition to the concept of usury, I doubt a lay Texan would key in on this being an aspect of Islamic fundamentalism unless some AM Talk Radio host or Joe Rogan affiliated podcaster mentioned it. If a local school district passed an ordinance protecting transgender athletes from discrimination, how many people might trace this back to The Prophet’s positive attitudes toward mukhannathun or Ayatollah Khomeini and Al-Azhar’s fatwas explicitly permitting reassignment surgery… unless a conservative pundit explicitly brought it up.

      “christian law” would be effectively the same thing

      There was a whole Thirty Years War suggesting the definition of “Christian Law” is not so well-defined. But, again, I think there’s a very limited understanding of historical religious strictures across every faith. People tend to only know what they’re told of, within the context of the speaker delivering the message.

      What you’d consider a normal Evangelical religious edict might fly directly in the face of a traditional Catholic or Eastern Orthodox legal code.

      Islamic Laws stray even farther, depending on which Islamic community you’re coming from (Indonesians can hold very different social morals than Nigerians or Turks)

      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
        2·
        7 hours ago

        Sharia law isn’t the sum of prohibitive laws based on Islam, it’s an entire legal system based on Islamic law.

        If a county bans alcohol sales, it’s not sharia just because Islam prohibits alcohol. Even if someone on the county council happens to be muslim, if the legal system itself is secular, then an alcohol ban implemented under that system is also secular.

        Sharia law implies you have imams writing the legal code, not legislators who happen to be muslim. “Freedom of religion” means anyone can practice any religion, but no laws can be passed on the basis of religion.

        If you ban alcohol because it’s bad for the liver and the arteries, or because it destroys lives and families, or because drunk drivers are dangerous, then it’s not religiously motivated no matter what religion the people passing those laws follow.

        The same logic applies to tax code and trans right. They should be written on a secular basis with the intent to be designed for what’s most beneficial to society. What’s a fair rate for people to pay to keep the public systems running and provide social safety nets for those who need them? What’s the most fair and inclusive way to enshrine human rights without marginalizing anyone?

        If your religion says “be a good person and help others” so you get into politics so you can write good policy, it doesn’t make your policy religious unless you write religion into it or pass it under a religious legal system.

        And I understand that there are major differences between protestant/catholic/orthodox christians, but the differences in substance doesn’t change the fact that if the legal system is secular, then the laws passed under it are secular (if those laws abide by the secular constitution).

        When I said republicans want a theocracy, I meant it literally. They want to change the legal system from a secular one to a religious one. The substance of policy that would result from that change is secondary to the change itself. And yes, when they say “christian” they mean “evangelical protestant.” Which is even scarier, because at least catholics and orthodox christians respect human rights and value things like compassion and selfless service.

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          2·
          7 hours ago

          If a county bans alcohol sales, it’s not sharia just because Islam prohibits alcohol.

          If a Muslim community refuses to issue liquor licenses, you’re going to see Christian Nationalists accuse the municipal government of “operating under Sharia Law” in order to justify a state-level take over of the administration. These laws give them the necessary leverage.

          If your religion says “be a good person and help others” so you get into politics so you can write good policy, it doesn’t make your policy religious unless you write religion into it or pass it under a religious legal system.

          If you’re implementing policies in defiance of the state’s majority party, they can point to your minority religion as the reason for your opposition. And they can galvanize the broader state religious majority to strip you of municipal self-rule, by claiming your religion says “be a bad person and hurt others”.

          When I said republicans want a theocracy, I meant it literally.

          Any hard look at Abbott, Paxton, and Patrick suggest they aren’t theocrats nearly so much as they’re just fascists using any excuse to consolidate power. Texas is heavily conservative Christian, so they slam that peddle a bunch.

          This push for “anti-Sharia Law” legislation is more of the same. An excuse to deprive municipalities of self-rule.

  • Bwaz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    7 hours ago

    Wow, close call there, Texas, you’re addessing a major risk there.

    So, do Christofascist laws next.

  • stickly@lemmy.world
    4·
    7 hours ago

    The middle 4 bullets are standard practice for our current epstein overlords and the top bullet is the Christo-fascist wet dream. At least we get dogs?

    …Well, as long as you hide them from Kristi Noem…

    • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
      3·
      7 hours ago

      Interesting how they don’t mention it, right? Male circumcision is standard in Islam, it should be on the list. Anything to avoid addressing the genital mutilation elephant already in the room.