I have spent hours looking through the files and some of the stories are absolutely disgusting. I am having such a hard time because so many citizens don’t even know how awful they get and they aren’t all even fully released… I am close to feeling like we need pitchforks, torches and shovels if this justice system won’t actually do anything… He had a ranch where a witness wrote in saying there are TWO bodies located on the property and they haven’t even reported that in the media. I’ll link that one below too. It’s just so… Horrible. We can’t just pretend this doesn’t exist… but idk what happens next for the United States and the world. It’s not something a country just moves on from.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 9/EFTA00078198.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 9/EFTA01249507.pdf
This is what I don’t get when folk online treat girls under 18 of any age as the same thing. A full grown person who’s a 30 something adult being with a 17 year old is exploitative, controlling and weird.
Being with an 8 year old is monstrous and, frankly, worthy of the death penalty.
I’m not excusing the first, but do people really see no difference? If you need a legal line in the sand to determine if it’s either totally fine or straight to the guillotine then maybe there’s something wrong with you.
Fuck, man, doing this to an adult is heinous. Doing it to a child? I’m not typically a violent person. But I’d kill them.
Same.
Both deserve jail time, and the only people who really care that much are usually from the former group distancing themselves from the latter.
Both are fucking gross. I don’t care who’s more evil, I both want them shot into the sun. Second one just might deserve a slower ride so they feel the burn a bit more.
Pedophilia is the attraction to children younger than 12-10 to around 3, this is what was occurring mainly within that island. Of course, there where women within their teens and adults which don’t technically qualify as pedophilia but are referred to it either way - which is incorrect.
Of course, pedophilia according to dsm5 on itself is listed as a mental disorder, nepophilia is also included. However, it is to say, attraction to those above 13 is not considered as a mental disorder. It also helps to know, that biologically such individuals are closer to adults than children, so it goes in hand with your last paragraph.
It is the sake that the legal line is essentially an “anchor” point, especially since we still believe in hoaxes which are related to growth and maturity. As such this incorrect view is projected to everyone even if the facts are different to what people expect.
In essence, the whole premise overall seems to be fueled by misinformation which is causing the whole “under 18” group to appear as one and the same, no matter the age. This is a major problem I agree, and the misuse of the word pedophilia tells a big story about it.
The reason you don’t hear more people explaining the difference between being a pedophile and being an ephibophile is that it makes you look like a pedophile.
Case in point.
That is true, it is the case for all minor attractions. Within the current situation, the most prominent issue is that information is not factually based and definitions are skewed. Like the original commenter had said, this introduces ambiguity.
there’s a joke that goes technically there are 3-4 different words for what the layman calls pedophilia, but the only people who know the difference are psychiatrists and pedophiles
I swear to god if fedi starts defending “ephebophilia” as if its meaningfully different enough to matter I’m going to start cutting dicks off lmao.
You’re missing the point here. This isn’t about defending whatever you seem to disagree on. Its the fact that you seem to think critical analysis is meaningless and “indifferent”. The first commenter had this message instilled, yet you are correlating this to things which where not even mentioned.
In respect to the post itself, then yes the age designation is meaningless as you cannot redefine rape and abuse. It is pretty clear that this comment thread was for a specific issue.
Why should it matter to society what the difference between the two is, if the better of the two is still bad enough that they should be hung by their toenails and beaten to death with a sack of hammers?
After a certain amount of bad, there’s not much you can do to punish it.
What reason do we have to discuss the difference, unless you think a 30 year old fucking a 17 year old is redeemable?
To answer your question, firstly consider the point of what is misinformation. Because this isn’t about the right or wrongs, but the factualities of science and countering misinformation. The function of this thread was to analyse the differences between different stages of age groups which are considered minors. This was highlighted by the root op.
Redirecting the question to you, why do you think it is reasonable to be going off topic?
It is clear the overall aim here is to reinforce the actualities. By introducing rhetorical questions such as “Why should it matter to society what the difference between the two is” it is an attack on education as a whole. Highlighting the differences and defining facts is the whole foundation of society. Of course, this isn’t ethics class, it is biology and psychology.
This is a comment chain in a post about the Epstein files in which the top comment in the chain is about a 30 year old fucking someone in their late teens.
Its entirely on topic, fuck off with your bad faith arguments.
This isn’t ethics class, or biology class, or sociology class…
Its a comment section about billionaire kiddy fuckers not getting the justice they deserve. Are you sure you’re in the right place?
an 18 dating a 16 is one thing, and whatever justification can be used then is not applicable to a 30yo dating a 16 yo, let alone any younger… and any argument made by those pedos deserves no response besides putting them on a list