It makes sense, if you equivocate the Israeli State with all Israeli people, or even all Jewish people. I don’t, just as I wouldn’t equivocate the Nazi German State with all Germanic peoples the world over.
Everyone in this thread: I want Israel shattered, and it’s people cast into the sea!
Half the Jews on earth: OK, well we’re not going to let that happen to us without a fight. In fact, since you all keep trying, we’re going to take proactive steps to make your goal basically impossible.
Everyone in this thread: why do you love genocide so much?
You: Heil Hitler heil Hitler heil Hitler heil Hitler heil Hitler heil Hitler heil (etc.)
Us: Why do you love genodice so much?
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Also it bears repeating, because you’re actively ignoring it, but we’re not calling for the death or Israelis or Jewish people generally, but specifically the fascist state that is commiting crimes against humanity in their name. The insistence that those two are one and the same is just fascist propaganda.
For the record, I think Bibi and most of his government belong in prison. Bibi is a fascist. - but so are most Palestinians, for lack of a better word. I think Israel (as well as Europe and the Arab states) should pay reparations to all Palestinians who can demonstrate they have been permanently displaced from land that Israelis have settled on.
I’m just realistic about arab/islamic nationalism, and how those states treat their ethnic and religious minorities. I also support Kurdish independence for the same reason. I support the Christians in Lebanon. Being a non-arab, non-muslim in the Muslim/Arab world is a mortal danger.
There is no scenario where Israel doesn’t exist, and Jewish people in the middle east aren’t subjected to exactly the kind of genocide that you’re accusing Israelis of perpetrating. Some might even call it projection.
If that makes me literally Hitler, then we really don’t have anything to discuss. My side keeps winning. Total Israeli capitulation isn’t ever going to happen. When certain parties finally accept that reality, maybe we can start making moves towards a lasting peace.
How?
It makes sense, if you equivocate the Israeli State with all Israeli people, or even all Jewish people. I don’t, just as I wouldn’t equivocate the Nazi German State with all Germanic peoples the world over.
Everyone in this thread: I want Israel shattered, and it’s people cast into the sea!
Half the Jews on earth: OK, well we’re not going to let that happen to us without a fight. In fact, since you all keep trying, we’re going to take proactive steps to make your goal basically impossible.
Everyone in this thread: why do you love genocide so much?
Us: We hate Nazi Germany! Down with Hitler!
You: Heil Hitler heil Hitler heil Hitler heil Hitler heil Hitler heil Hitler heil (etc.)
Us: Why do you love genodice so much?
Edit:
Also it bears repeating, because you’re actively ignoring it, but we’re not calling for the death or Israelis or Jewish people generally, but specifically the fascist state that is commiting crimes against humanity in their name. The insistence that those two are one and the same is just fascist propaganda.
For the record, I think Bibi and most of his government belong in prison. Bibi is a fascist. - but so are most Palestinians, for lack of a better word. I think Israel (as well as Europe and the Arab states) should pay reparations to all Palestinians who can demonstrate they have been permanently displaced from land that Israelis have settled on.
I’m just realistic about arab/islamic nationalism, and how those states treat their ethnic and religious minorities. I also support Kurdish independence for the same reason. I support the Christians in Lebanon. Being a non-arab, non-muslim in the Muslim/Arab world is a mortal danger.
There is no scenario where Israel doesn’t exist, and Jewish people in the middle east aren’t subjected to exactly the kind of genocide that you’re accusing Israelis of perpetrating. Some might even call it projection.
If that makes me literally Hitler, then we really don’t have anything to discuss. My side keeps winning. Total Israeli capitulation isn’t ever going to happen. When certain parties finally accept that reality, maybe we can start making moves towards a lasting peace.