Democracy is a pleasant illusion, it always has been. It is impossible to have free and open elections under a system where the citizens are split into a ruling class and a working class, a system where money is speech and corporations have freedom of speech, a system where the law is written by the ruling class and enforced against the working class but not against their own.
We need to take back our society, through force if necessary.
Not 100%, though not 0% either. On the spectrum, it does appear to have been closer to democracy in the past than the present.
I note that any action taken via force may not work out well in today’s era of surveillance technology, plus also it would still need the unskippable step of achieving consensus among the people, which is nowhere close to happening.
Watching the fights on the Threadiverse is instructive: we cannot even achieve consensus here, so I think trying to go beyond that to include mainstream normies is hopeless. You can fight against the leaders in a society, but how do you fight both them and the will of the people at the same time? You cannot.
It’s just my opinion, but I think it’s much more likely to achieve any kind of change at all to work within the existing systems.
The only consensus we need is that the system has failed us, and it was never established for our benefit in the first place. It was always intended to work this way.
The system cannot be used to abolish the system.
Surveillance technology doesn’t matter at all. There is strength in numbers. There are more of us than there are of them.
I mean… not 100%, though not 0% either. Things were different a few decades ago.
The system cannot be used to abolish the system.
True dat. But also, read Animal Farm. The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend. Russia for instance overthrew their oligarchs, and now they are living happily ever after…
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They have e.g. nukes and know how to farm and live off the land. City people know which TV shows and Tiktok channels they enjoy the most. If it turns violent, there is zero chance of liberals coming out on top.
I am not saying to not get serious. In fact, I’m saying the opposite.
Democracy is a pleasant illusion, it always has been. It is impossible to have free and open elections under a system where the citizens are split into a ruling class and a working class, a system where money is speech and corporations have freedom of speech, a system where the law is written by the ruling class and enforced against the working class but not against their own.
We need to take back our society, through force if necessary.
Not 100%, though not 0% either. On the spectrum, it does appear to have been closer to democracy in the past than the present.
I note that any action taken via force may not work out well in today’s era of surveillance technology, plus also it would still need the unskippable step of achieving consensus among the people, which is nowhere close to happening.
Watching the fights on the Threadiverse is instructive: we cannot even achieve consensus here, so I think trying to go beyond that to include mainstream normies is hopeless. You can fight against the leaders in a society, but how do you fight both them and the will of the people at the same time? You cannot.
It’s just my opinion, but I think it’s much more likely to achieve any kind of change at all to work within the existing systems.
The only consensus we need is that the system has failed us, and it was never established for our benefit in the first place. It was always intended to work this way.
The system cannot be used to abolish the system.
Surveillance technology doesn’t matter at all. There is strength in numbers. There are more of us than there are of them.
I mean… not 100%, though not 0% either. Things were different a few decades ago.
True dat. But also, read Animal Farm. The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend. Russia for instance overthrew their oligarchs, and now they are living happily ever after…
They have e.g. nukes and know how to farm and live off the land. City people know which TV shows and Tiktok channels they enjoy the most. If it turns violent, there is zero chance of liberals coming out on top.
I am not saying to not get serious. In fact, I’m saying the opposite.