• Matty Roses@lemmy.today
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    2 days ago

    for the first time in 30 years

    Dean had the 50 state strategy in 2006. Which paid off in 2008, with the largest Dem win in generations.

    That of course was quickly squandered.

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      1 day ago

      What got us 2008 was people actually wanted to vote for Obama because he was charismatic and his policy matched what voters wanted…

      Something Dean and the DNC tried to stop from happening.

      That was in spite of the neoliberals, but to be honest I’d never imagined someone would even attempt to give them credit for that

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        1 day ago

        It wasn’t really Dean - though as an ex-Deanite, maybe I’m biased.

        Dean was elected in spite of lots of the Democratic establishment. And they did oppose Obama (for little reason it turned out, he didn’t block them).

        With Obama, who I volunteered for in 2008, I can say for sure lots of the support thought that we were cleaning house of the Dem leadership, only to see Larry Summers and the like immediately brought back in. My big question is really if the fix was always in, or if Obama got push back and immediately gave up. Either seems likely.