There are a lot of really miserable, insufferable kids on Lemmy right now seething about this because it flies in the face of the “voting is useless, everything will be rigged” narrative that they push to validate not wanting to be involved.
Showing up at the polls is not our problem in the US, it’s getting people involved enough to actually learn about and read what candidates represent. We had the largest voter turnout in US history over the last couple elections, but people basically voted at random because they tuned out of the political chaos.
It’s far more clear this time around who is doing what to disrupt the status-quo in the US and I expect we’re going to see a massive swing in the opposite direction between this November and 2028.
There are a lot of really miserable, insufferable kids on Lemmy right now seething about this because it flies in the face of the “voting is useless, everything will be rigged” narrative that they push to validate not wanting to be involved.
They don’t want to be involved in the actual democratic process, but they reeeeally don’t want to shut the fuck up about their irrelevant opinions.
I am 99% sure it is a CCP effort. Been tracking it for like a year now. Hard to track because it’s contagious.
For the love of God always call out doomers for being suspect. They’re not here because they’re feeling impending doom. They’re here to make you feel impending doom.
Russia/Israel/CCP. Almost all of the doomers are voting doesn’t work, why aren’t you starting a civil war, the dems are just gonna gaza harder than the turnip, etc.
I mean, Im on board with the message overall but I very much think people not getting to the polls is an issue. 90 million chose to sit out last general election. That is a HUGE problem IMO.
It’s still important to push the message to not be lazy about going out and doing the thing, especially in mid-terms which get far less turnout.
But that 89mil who did not vote in 2024 is very close to the average percentage that stays home every election anyway. My point is, the sampling of those who did vote, didn’t necessarily make me think that if uninterested people did show up, that it would have gone much different.
Of the people who were actually registered and voted in 2024, a vast number of the people who voted for Trump identified as Obama voters and Bernie supporters. People had basically discarded whatever political alignment more informed voters adhere to and just looked at the price of eggs at the time and associated that with Biden/Harris, and that was the most informed opinion shaping voting habits.
People did not watch debates. They did not pay attention to large news stories. They got most of their political news from social media; tweets and facebook memes in the small amount of time they spend scrolling content that isn’t entertainment. They did not know what either candidate was advocating and largely didn’t care, most thought it didn’t effect them either way.
This is all by design, and if we want to talk to about vote manipulation, this is the biggest issue, which is there are too many fake shills and sock-puppets all over social media, even here on Lemmy, who will adopt the stupidest or most radical takes on both sides of every issue until bystanders and browsers roll their eyes at the whole thing and tune out.
There are literally millions of people in India and other countries who farm Twitter for a few dollars every month by pushing rage-bait, arguing with people, pretending to be Americans and pretending to care about our future, while sharing propaganda and memes designed to make people hate political involvement.
Our biggest problem is not turnout but engagement and information.
There are a lot of really miserable, insufferable kids on Lemmy right now seething about this because it flies in the face of the “voting is useless, everything will be rigged” narrative that they push to validate not wanting to be involved.
Showing up at the polls is not our problem in the US, it’s getting people involved enough to actually learn about and read what candidates represent. We had the largest voter turnout in US history over the last couple elections, but people basically voted at random because they tuned out of the political chaos.
It’s far more clear this time around who is doing what to disrupt the status-quo in the US and I expect we’re going to see a massive swing in the opposite direction between this November and 2028.
not even the commie doomers can stop us now
yay democracy!!
I will believe you if you can provide just 2 examples.
They don’t want to be involved in the actual democratic process, but they reeeeally don’t want to shut the fuck up about their irrelevant opinions.
I am 99% sure it is a CCP effort. Been tracking it for like a year now. Hard to track because it’s contagious.
For the love of God always call out doomers for being suspect. They’re not here because they’re feeling impending doom. They’re here to make you feel impending doom.
Russia/Israel/CCP. Almost all of the doomers are voting doesn’t work, why aren’t you starting a civil war, the dems are just gonna gaza harder than the turnip, etc.
Golly, seems like lots of people don’t like you
I mean, Im on board with the message overall but I very much think people not getting to the polls is an issue. 90 million chose to sit out last general election. That is a HUGE problem IMO.
It’s still important to push the message to not be lazy about going out and doing the thing, especially in mid-terms which get far less turnout.
But that 89mil who did not vote in 2024 is very close to the average percentage that stays home every election anyway. My point is, the sampling of those who did vote, didn’t necessarily make me think that if uninterested people did show up, that it would have gone much different.
Of the people who were actually registered and voted in 2024, a vast number of the people who voted for Trump identified as Obama voters and Bernie supporters. People had basically discarded whatever political alignment more informed voters adhere to and just looked at the price of eggs at the time and associated that with Biden/Harris, and that was the most informed opinion shaping voting habits.
People did not watch debates. They did not pay attention to large news stories. They got most of their political news from social media; tweets and facebook memes in the small amount of time they spend scrolling content that isn’t entertainment. They did not know what either candidate was advocating and largely didn’t care, most thought it didn’t effect them either way.
This is all by design, and if we want to talk to about vote manipulation, this is the biggest issue, which is there are too many fake shills and sock-puppets all over social media, even here on Lemmy, who will adopt the stupidest or most radical takes on both sides of every issue until bystanders and browsers roll their eyes at the whole thing and tune out.
There are literally millions of people in India and other countries who farm Twitter for a few dollars every month by pushing rage-bait, arguing with people, pretending to be Americans and pretending to care about our future, while sharing propaganda and memes designed to make people hate political involvement.
Our biggest problem is not turnout but engagement and information.
Voters seem, with good reason, to hate whichever party is currently in power is another easy way to read this.
Yeah, this unfortunately. I’m a lot more pragmatic and actually try to vote
Yes, lemmy.ml exists.
I blocked that whole instance and still get their shit in my feed.