• pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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    17 days ago

    Them freezing that order

    The ICE agents’ use of gas and chemical spray on protesters came shortly after the 8th Circuit US Court of Appeals froze an earlier ruling from US District Judge Katherine Menendez that had barred federal agents from using such forms of force on peaceful protesters.

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      There is literally no reason to be peaceful anymore. There is no reason to not be kitted the fuck out when you go to “protest” anymore. There is no reason we shouldn’t just fuckin turn safeties off imo.

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        No. They want to have an excuse to declare martial law and start shooting randomly. Leave it to Minnesota, they’re handling it right.

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          start shooting randomly

          … Start?

          Forget about all those they have murdered in custody, they have been shooting this whole time. Renee Good was not the first. Hell, one was off duty and had some road rage. They’ve shot quite a few people who ran away from them on foot.

          They dont need a reason, they already are. They can make up whatever excuse they want, since they clearly have no problem lying about what happens despite video showing how much they are lying.

          Minnesota still has people getting attacked, beaten, and killed.

          In Philadelphia, the DA has come out full force saying they will prosecute ICE. You have the Black Panthers (let’s not get sidetracked with the other shenanigans happening with them around the name, such stupid bullshit) walking around armed and ready. You have the Sheriff coming out directly after ICE.

          I’d prefer people taking a stand to Waltz’ message of keeping calm. IMO, he failed Minnesotans already, and friends from there feel the same. If they were doing it right, would Nekima Armstrong have been arrested? Would you have an incident where ICE claims a man “purposefully ran headfirst into a brick wall”?

          If they were handling it right, would ICE have use a 5 yr old kid as bait last night?

          The people of Minnesota are doing a decent job, but the state sure as shit isnt. The state has sent a clear message that they will not protect their citizens.

          Edit: Today’s addition.

          https://slrpnk.net/post/33242375

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          They want to have an excuse to declare martial law and start shooting randomly

          This shit drives me absolutely insane.

          They don’t need an excuse

          They’re going to do it anyway, so people need to fucking defend themselves however they can. Stop spouting this horseshit

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          I understand that but imo this is not going to end well, let alone peacefully.

          I just don’t see this administration/dictatorship conceding to anything just because production might have slowed down for a little bit. They’re in too deep now; they can’t just walk things back and go “whoops, sorry! How about we only prosecute a tiny fraction of agents that actually committed acts of force/violence to placate the masses” and it all cycles back around. They’re either going to get what they want or we’re going to have to stop them from taking it over our cold lifeless bodies.

          Tell me I’m exaggerating.

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            Organized citizenry capable of pulling off general strikes could exact concessions time and again as they are willing to go on general strike. Nothing would harm them more than all business in the country shutting down for an extended period of time.

            It would also show solidarity to the armed forces and security services that they plan on using to crush 1st amendment protected activity under false pretexts.

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            They’re in too deep now; they can’t just walk things back and go “whoops, sorry!

            They’ll do that in a heartbeat. In fact, they do it alllll the fucking time. LA is a perfect example and relates to this. They didn’t have anyone on their side so they picked a new target.

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        I can’t say what I’d like to, so I’ll just say something about how if they’re shooting us and using banned gas grenades on us, we should be responding in kind.

        The only language these fucks understand is violence, and it will take a significantly larger amount of it visited upon them for a longer amount of time for the message to become clear. WE WILL NOT TOLERATE INTOLERANCE.