• Zexks@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Not a valid excuse antmore. We all have access to the internet and can look any of this shit up.

    • ilinamorato@lemmy.world
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      20 hours ago

      Facts don’t counteract propaganda, at least not on their own. This is well studied.

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        Yeah they do. Its on the person to verify them. The only time they dont is when the individual decides for themselves to ignore the facts. Its people choosing to hold onto thier own prejudices and assumptions rather than accepting the truth for what it is. This is what propoganda depends on, stereotypes, assumptions, and a lazy mind unwilling to challenge itself.

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        15 hours ago

        Then why haven’t you fallen for the propaganda? Obviously there’s more at play here. Like a willingness to question things or an unwillingness to reject things just because you don’t like it.

        These people are not infants.

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          9 hours ago

          I did fall for it. I was a vehement conservative/Republican all through high school and the first year or so of college; I bit down hard on the propaganda and bought it fully. What got me out of it was meeting people not like me and learning that they aren’t as evil as the conservative media machine says they are. Once I realized that that was a lie, it was just a process of investigating the other lies. In the meantime, friends from the conservative world started to insult and even threaten me for voicing questions, while progressive folks welcomed me to hang out with them and talk about what I was learning.

          That process started in about 2006 or so.By the time Trump came down the escalator, I was fully deprogrammed. At this point, I more or less identify as a democratic socialist.

          My experience matched pretty well with the research: it’s almost exclusively personal relationships that break people out of the bubble.

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            9 hours ago

            It’s important to remember that none of us are immune to propaganda. Doesn’t matter how smart we are, we can still fall for it.

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              4 hours ago

              No. Propoganda depends on a lack of willingness to question your own assumptions. Its a laziness of the mind that allows this.

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              9 hours ago

              Absolutely true. I like to think of myself as pretty intelligent, at least. Definitely not someone who would fall for something obvious. But propagandists are subtle and good at their craft.

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      21 hours ago

      So proving OP’s point that you genuinely don’t understand how powerful propaganda actually is and the level of it these people are drowning in.

      Heavens Gate got a group of people to commit mass suicide. It’s clear you have no idea how powerful propaganda can be and what it can make people do.

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      21 hours ago

      Most of them are too distracted by the endless stream of propaganda and brainrot to take the time to look into things. There’s also an excessive amount of denial and it takes character to be open to change your beliefs.

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      21 hours ago

      That’s what’s called an opinion. I agree with it. Just doesn’t make it true because you want it to be or because it’s easier.